At first I quoted your response to me but I think it’ll be best answering to this comment since it pretty much sums up the situation.
In my eye, and so does many Israelis, peace with the Palestinians is impossible due to their exaggerated claims and demands over any past (and future) negotiation.
In negotiation, same as in Oslo, you may agree on 8 points out of 10 and execute those. In every negotiation with the Palestinians that wasn’t the case. The “right to return” demand was a red line for them and if no agreement was met in that respect, the entire negotiation is a no go.
Hence, your comment here is a great one. Israel can’t solve the issue from its side, because the other side doesn’t want Israel’s and the international community’s solutions. Israel can do maximum effort in managing the conflict but not to solve it. Israel has only one thing that the Palestinians want and it’s something Israel can never give.
So yeah, we’ll be back in Gaza and there will be more bloodshed.
I just hope for a leadership that’ll make an effort to negotiate with the Palestinians and hopefully they’ll have a supportive leadership as well.

my back and forth earlier was to the effect that: In my opinion, If Israel wants lasting peace it has to do something different, noting repeating the same thing is likely to lead to the same result. The sustained bombing of Gaza, over 2 years, was a catastrophic mistake, and while it may take Israel decades to realise this, the sooner this is realised, the better, for Israel. A different road needs to be explored, yet is not being explored.

This post was edited by ferdia on Jun 4 2026 11:15am

well said!!!!

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July 2025 – Slovakia: Rubicon Festival cancelled after backlash over antisemitic statements.
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April 2026 – France: Authorities sought to stop Marseille concert; event was postponed.
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April 2026 – Switzerland: Basel stadium operators refused to host planned performance.
May 2026 – Italy: Authorities blocked concerts, citing security and public-order concerns.
May 2026 – Netherlands: Parliamentarians urged exclusion; government investigated legal options. Migration minister found no legal basis for exclusion.
June 2026 – Netherlands: Court rejected challenges seeking to stop Arnhem concerts. Performances proceeded, making Holland Europe's notable exception.

If it was 2024 there is no way Holland would have agreed to this, but well, times change, noting Holland is no longer firmly in the camp of Israel.

in the meantime Cenk Uygur, an outspoken America critic of Israel, has been banned from the UK. (no surprise here noting the UK aided Israel throughout the Gaza and Iran conflicts).

This post was edited by ferdia on Jun 4 2026 04:04pm

what would be a better solution?

An olive branch, or almost anything other then what they plan for Gaza (and the West Bank).

This post was edited by ferdia on Jun 5 2026 12:53am

Just for some context, here are some news stories from around the word today:

1. A Palestinian family was burned alive as they slept in their beds when Israel attacked Gaza City in the middle of the night (4th June 2026)
2. The United Arab Emirates mission at the UN has expressed “strong condemnation” of continued illegal settlement activity in the occupied West Bank, forced displacement of Palestinians from their land, and repeated incursions by Israeli settlers into Al-Aqsa Mosque under the protection of Israeli armed forces.
3. Israel has continued to carry out deadly attacks across Lebanon despite the announcement of a new US-brokered ceasefire agreement reached by Lebanese and Israeli officials in Washington, DC.
4. The Israeli military has issued forced displacement warnings for Aarnaya, Aanqoun and Kfar Kila, three villages and towns in southern Lebanon.
5. A UN General Assembly (UNGA) committee on Palestinian rights has condemned Israel’s threats to forcibly displace the Palestinian community of Khan al-Ahmar, located to the east of occupied East Jerusalem.
6. Block the bombs: Support grows for US bill to restrict arms for Israel

There is nothing here or related to Gaza which suggests a brighter tomorrow for Israel (or for Palestinians).

This post was edited by ferdia on Jun 5 2026 02:57am

The short answer anyone but Hamas.

The longer answer:
it will likely be a mix of local Palestinian municipal councils, tribal leaders, and business technocrats, backed logistically and financially by regional Arab states like Egypt, the UAE, or Saudi Arabia who want stability and want to keep Iran out.
But here’s the real point you're missing: from a security perspective, it doesn't matter exactly which local committee is paving the roads or fixing the sewers on day one. The entire foundation of this plan is that whoever runs the civilian side does not get an army, does not get to import Iranian rockets, and does not get control of the borders.
If a stable local leadership steps up to run daily life, great Gaza can actually rebuild. If they don't, and a power vacuum causes temporary chaos, that's a tragic problem for the civilian population, but it's a problem regional Arab partners will have to help solve. Israel’s only non-negotiable job is ensuring that vacuum isn't filled by a genocidal terror group. We are separating civil governance from military control.

That’s accurate!
Nice!