No, but if you have some suggestions feel free to pm me and I'll get back to you on my thoughts if that's ok.

You are confused about how translations get applied let me explain.

Words in a dictionary usually have multiple meaning including being used as a noun, verb adverb etc.

For example word bat means a nocturnal flying mammal that usually lives in caves. Its second meaning is a bat a physical object a stout solid stick : club/cudgel. It can also mean bachelor of arts teaching, it could also mean to strike/hit the ball. Another meaning could be a motion with the the eyes especially in a surprising manner.

In a conversation when someone is talking about seeing a bat in a cave how it flew around and made a screeching sound everyone knows the author is talking about "bat" the nocturnal flying mammal. You come along and ignore the context and cherrypick a different meaning and say the author is saying it was a stout solid stick.

Furthermore you are using modern english translations for example the archaic term for a serpent 1
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archaic : a noxious creature that creeps, hisses, or stings

Instead you should be using old Hebrew/Greek translations in which the bible was written NOT English
The Hebrew word for snake or serpent is נָחָשׁ (transliterated as nāḥāsh or nachash) means literal venomous snake which is different from your incorrect interpretation as a deceitful person.
The Hebrew equivalent term for a deceitful man is אִישׁ שֶׁקֶר (ish sheqer), which translates literally to "a man of falsehood" or "a liar." This phrase appears in Proverbs 17:4 to describe a person who spreads lies.


The Hebrew word re'em (רְאֵם) only appears in the bible it is a unique word to describe a unique animal. A unicorn or oxen like animal. The Hebrew already has word for regular ox is שׁוֹר (shor) and a word for rhino is karnaf (קַרנַף)
In the bible it has both it clearly knows the difference they don't mix those words interchangeably

Proverbs 14:4 שֽׁוֹר׃ (šō-wr) ox vs Numbers 23:22 רְאֵ֖ם (rə-’êm) a unicorn

As you can see you are clearly wrong just admit it.

This post was edited by addone on Jun 4 2026 03:35pm

when it comes to dictionary definitions you have a bad habit of arbitrarily choosing the definition that suits your whims.


when you figure out this stuff you need to give your reasoning behind it. everyone knows your motivated by agenda and will only find what supports that. (i want to see your references not what your edits are)


quick search i found this curiously
Strong's Hebrew: 5175. נָחָשׁ (nachash) -- Serpent, snake
Genesis establishes נָחָשׁ as a representative of subtlety and false wisdom. This symbolism is echoed whenever the term recurs in connection with idolatry or divination (for example, Deuteronomy 18:10).
if one was to be honest it would take a deep dive into the word its history and in its context. i certainly wouldnt trust you to do a honest assessment. your agenda is far to obvious. that you have some kind of obsession with christianity only and not in religion in general. out conversation in the thread "islam is obviously fake" one got the impression you were defending islam

whats this about? are you claiming to be a better translator then the people that translated the scriptures?


and we have the word "snake" and we also have the word "deceitful person" and a "deceitful person" cane be referred to as a snake and it doesnt confuse anybody
i would suggest another deep dive and perhaps ask the question "who was the snake in the garden of eden" rather then rely on addone jiving something up.


all you have proved here is the ancient jews named animals. doesnt address the question about classification

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when a man says "no God" that is a godhood claim. has been my experience that these people, 'atheists are the most self-indulgent people. they literally believe that their minds are above all else. that their imaginations are some how the pinnacle of some kind of grand logic process.
reference strong delusions within scripture

This post was edited by TiStuff on Jun 4 2026 05:42pm

Nope thats what you do

You googled what someone's subjective opinion on what the "serpent" represents/symbolizes instead of the direct hebrew translation of the word lmao.

Not jiving anything or claiming being better I gave you 2 distinct translations from the bible itself one for the serpent and one for a deceitful person. You are intentionally mistranslating words.

Reem (magic unicorn) and ox (regular bull) are two separate animals one is real the other is a magical that doesn't exist your trying to say it was just a regular ox. Again I gave you bible verses which use 2 separate words to differentiate between the two.

You just don't want to acknowledge they are different. Hense why you are wrong. Maybe you need another christian who knows hebrew to tell you that you are wrong since logic bounces right off.

Even if 10,000 Years go by we will wait. In the meantime we must tell of his great love, He will come.
For His patience means salvation.

From what we can see, The LORD keeps His promises. The LORD swears by himself because there is no one greater. Look at the promises he gave at Abraham. He surely kept that promise. His covenant with Moses and all the beasts, He will never flood the entire Earth ever again. The Rainbow symbolises that.

I trust The LORD's Word much more than yours.

Genesis 22:15-19 ESV

15 And the angel of the Lord called to Abraham a second time from heaven 16 and said, “By myself I have sworn, declares the Lord, because you have done this and have not withheld your son, your only son, 17 I will surely bless you, and I will surely multiply your offspring as the stars of heaven and as the sand that is on the seashore. And your offspring shall possess the gate of his enemies, 18 and in your offspring shall all the nations of the earth be blessed, because you have obeyed my voice.” 19 So Abraham returned to his young men, and they arose and went together to Beersheba. And Abraham lived at Beersheba.

your still doing it. if you want to make a proper argument post version(translation) chapter and verse. then make your argument.


when you do it its ok


and somehow the word "snake" cant be used as a descriptive?


apparently you dont understand how classification works. people get together and classify animals by the traits they have. there will be variations between groups.
that one animal is called a unicorn and another is called a ox. has nothing to do with "classification"
there is a bird called a ox pecker. its not a ox or a pecker or a oxs pecker thats just what its name is but its classified as a bird


your lack of comprehension, perhaps on purpose

just posted the unicorn vid again #2670 your insistence on being ignorant on the subject is astounding

This post was edited by TiStuff on Jun 5 2026 12:22am

whats scary? is genetic code is running out of time. either way "the end is nigh". so much knowledge ......... something in scripture that talks about knowledge increasing

I did you lost.

You can describe a person as a snake all you like but that's not what the bible says or what the correct Hebrew translation is. You are selecting modern english an applying it to the Bible out of context.

A guy who thought rhinos were from a bovine family is telling me I don't understand how classifications work... great.

Most mainstream christians agree on these translations its not even controversial, for some reason you alone seem to have difficulty accepting what certain words mean. Unless you have come to realization there is no magic or magical creatures. That can only mean I have succeeded in subtly freeing you from thinking bible being literal to metaphorical/allegorical/non magical story.


Thats right Tistuff you're taking small steps to realizing christianity is fake. You should celebrate these small victories. Pretty soon you will shelf the bible next to Alice in Wonderland and Wizard of Oz and reminice on the old times how you used to believe in a magical god.

assertion fallacy


you still lack scriptural reerence


the claim is unicorn means rhino
reference unicorn vid again in post #2670


biology and the definition of supernatural proves all creatures are "magical" including mere blade of grass

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Thats right Tistuff you're taking small steps to realizing christianity is fake. You should celebrate these small victories. Pretty soon you will shelf the bible next to Alice in Wonderland and Wizard of Oz and reminice on the old times how you used to believe in a magical god.

your level of false strengthens my faith more than any sermon ever has
sermons try to lend understanding to scripture
'atheists are a living example of scripture in real time

because it is the only worldview that can coherently ground the preconditions for the possibility of intelligibility as I have mentioned several times. what do you not understand here, it's the only argument i've made this entire thread.

x is the necessary precondition for y, y therefore x. is the form of the argument:

The Triune Christian God (x) is the only being that can coherently ground the preconditions for intelligibility and the possibility of knowledge (y), knowledge (y) is possible therefore God (x) exists.

You could object to two parts of this
1) that there is an alternative explanation for the possibility of intelligibility e.g. you must ground the transcendentals in something and explain how we possibly interact with it (the problem of the one and the many)
2) deny that knowledge itself is possible, which is an incoherent position.

it's why I continuously ask you to ground logic, meaning, empiricism, intelligibility, etc within your worldview because there is no other worldview that can possibly ground these necessary things for knowledge to be possible.

if you cannot justify logic itself and ground it, your claim of "Christianity is obviously fake" is a meaningless statement as meaning is a necessary component of logic