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Jun 3 2026 01:47am
How goes the trips on the HolyLandSites? Have you taken the steps to go there yourself?
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Jun 3 2026 02:17am
How goes the trips on the HolyLandSites? Have you taken the steps to go there yourself?


Been to Egypt didn't find jesus but the pyramids were pretty cool. What will visiting israei/Jordan/Palestine etc in person accomplish that I can't already find through countless of pictues and videos? Will jesus personally come out of his cave and greet me? I don't see how that proves anything a fools errand equivalent of saying go and google answers online.

Its so easy to brainwash people, cults exploit people's trust. Once they get you it's very difficult to admit you have been had. Keep challenging those beliefs you might just break free
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Jun 3 2026 03:04am
I said I was open to being convinced or is that not enough? A blind person doesn't have eyes he cannot see even if he tried your analogy implies I am incapable of experiencing or seeing even if I wanted to.
I looked up at the stars but didn't reach the same conclusion as you. I don't think it's a coincidence for our universe to exist I think its just a natural process on a macro scale. I have no reason to believe it was made by some kind of entity and you certainly haven't made a single convincing reason for me to think otherwise.

You mentioned a book on quantum mechanics somehow led you to jesus but never elaborated on how. Perhaps now is the time connect the dots, all you are doing is serving me arguments from ignorance


Different strokes for different folks. I appreciate the time you took in replying I see you respect yourself and you respect the person your talking to. I like the way you present your argument and your still open for business!

If the stars don't work that fine, if you believe its natural process on a macro scale that's fine. You have no reason to believe it was was made by some kind of entity. Why are you open to being convinced? Why do you want to see this?

That quantum physics book was 20 years ago, my life road map isn't going to do anything for you. But I asked "why" questions.

Its obvious your very passionate about this topic from how much time you've invested in it. Personally I only like to focus my energy on things that might help me be a better me. What does this do for you?

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Different strokes for different folks. I appreciate the time you took in replying I see you respect yourself and you respect the person your talking to. I like the way you present your argument and your still open for business!

If the stars don't work that fine, if you believe its natural process on a macro scale that's fine. You have no reason to believe it was was made by some kind of entity. Why are you open to being convinced? Why do you want to see this?

That quantum physics book was 20 years ago, my life road map isn't going to do anything for you. But I asked "why" questions.

Its obvious your very passionate about this topic from how much time you've invested in it. Personally I only like to focus my energy on things that might help me be a better me. What does this do for you?


I think you never read a book without pictures in your life much less on quantum physics. The jig is up you can stop pretending now.
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Jun 3 2026 04:58am
I think you never read a book without pictures in your life much less on quantum physics. The jig is up you can stop pretending now.


Do you feel fulfilled in life?
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Referencing fairytale incorrectly. Thought this wasn't your style. Oh well, at least some of us remain consistent.
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Jun 3 2026 05:17am
I think you never read a book without pictures in your life much less on quantum physics. The jig is up you can stop pretending now.


Now that you mention it I think that book did have pictures in it, almost like an activity book. What do you do for fun other than possibly this?

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Jun 3 2026 05:56am
Now that you mention it I think that book did have pictures in it, almost like an activity book. What do you do for fun other than possibly this?

a video in this thread. op ignores it. i think it sums it all up?
i would post the vid again but jsp tells me i post to many videos
Atheists: No Evidence Would Be Enough - David Wood (title of video)
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=107619089&f=119&o=2450 #2459
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Been to Egypt didn't find jesus but the pyramids were pretty cool. What will visiting israei/Jordan/Palestine etc in person accomplish that I can't already find through countless of pictues and videos? Will jesus personally come out of his cave and greet me? I don't see how that proves anything a fools errand equivalent of saying go and google answers online.

Its so easy to brainwash people, cults exploit people's trust. Once they get you it's very difficult to admit you have been had. Keep challenging those beliefs you might just break free


It took you over 265 pages to admit that you went to Egypt? Why didn't you say so earlier? Based on the frequencies of your posts it obviously was before you made this thread.

You can go to the very places where the events in The Bible took place. You can go and see Hezekiah's tunnel. You can go to Mount Saini. You can overlook where Sodom and Gomorrah once stood.

You can even go all the way to the Church of the Nativity in modern day Bethlehem, the very place believed to be where Jesus Christ was born. Because you want to see things with your own eyes, get up and go, take the tour, do your big investigation just like the guy in The Case For Christ. See how it all lines up with all of Scripture.
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Jun 3 2026 06:34am
a video in this thread. op ignores it. i think it sums it all up?
i would post the vid again but jsp tells me i post to many videos
Atheists: No Evidence Would Be Enough - David Wood (title of video)
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=107619089&f=119&o=2450 #2459


The video doesn't resonate with me but the video title does. I don't think Addone is doing anything negative and I respect his terms that he placed on the 1st page "Lets keep it civil and try to answer each other truthfully without devolving into kindergarten".
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