I wasn't even aware that direct +skill items affected the skills given by Enigma. I thought it was only +all. Then again, the opportunity to take advantage of such is not a common occurrence, so I can see how this slipped through.

so, whats the best demon to bind for curse for bb

For pure curse, very low +skills: Siren
Once you have decent skills and can get +19 for 20+ soft points: Spearwoman

hmm not exacly, teleport in room and use a death mark and a pack is gone, i dont know if there is some breakpoint with defillers with fana + engorge attack speed but they use they abilities quite alot considering last season, pretty much every teleport they do, i have acess a full bb damage but i barelly use it,

maybe i tested wrong, the tainted version, but i felt that against mosnter imunes they did really low damage, and bind demon was not maxed, i even tested a not maxed bb and 2 maxed tainted with maxed bind demon but still felt that 2 defillers cleaned faster.. ( could be my impression, sure)

when i go against bosses ( baal tzp8 or diablo) i do summon 2 tainted instead of defillers as they have 17k damage ea, and even when i get some big pack with defiller skill bb damage just explode them as well if need

how your version would go against ubers and colossal? thats a big need for my build becouse i play hardcore and i need a safe way to do both.

i tested the bone break and it seems to work on spearwoman, but since it have spectral hit even ive done alot of testing might have something off but for tainted the sunder "trick" totallyu work and thats a big win for the build

another thing is that i have quite a big QoL i run merc with insight while i hold obsession and for t5 ( i play p8 all time) and bosses i swap for offhand pride, for ubers i swap insight on merc for infinity to help kill adds and lower they defense if needed

This post was edited by m4rin1 on Jun 2 2026 03:03pm

I mean you could, right. I don't see the appeal of doing ubers on anything other than a dedicated uber kill, its not really a clean way to do it, its not whatsoever profitable for THIS much investment, and I didn't at all have the survivability gear on my single player file that you'd want to do it in hardcore (I don't carry around organ sets or statues on ladder to make an example video). I mean, all the damage here is prebuffed, so you should be swapping into wizspike + stormshield not obsession, tgods, dwarfs, rising sun, kiras or coa, whatever. But yeah I think you could do it, hell probably would be faster with a pure spearwoman dps setup since diablo, baal & talic are all fire immune

This is really getting square peg into round hole, taintlock shines as a way to sweep TZ96 games not so much ubers or mfing or whatever. I mean, I could do 30 second trav runs with junk gear just using bound demon + defilers + blood boil but that's not practical compared to a day 1 new ladder blizz sorc either

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41opGdD7k0s

amazing!! how much are you using bloodboil exacly? im tempted to try again a bit more the version with max demon AND max tainted without max engorge...

Also worth pointing out: drognan in act 2 norm sells +3 teleport non-socket / non-magic battle staff / gnarled staff that will both get 4 sockets from imbue quest. Bit of shopping time to get them since many are magic/socketed and he gets 3 max sockets in-shop (but WILL be 4 from imbue)
So insight +3 tele is easy enough to get
Obsession in a +3 teleport base requires finding a war staff / gothic staff / archon staff with 0/6 sockets in ilvl 26+ zones (not norm cows), where teleport is much rarer due to how staffmods are chosen

But yeah +3 teleport doesn't matter as much to insight anyway since you get pretty overkill regen, whereas an obsession build REALLY wants to have a +3 base and max +skills to cobble together a sustainable mana pool
I think it can be done with as little as ~100-150 extra base from item/craft affixes or charms, and the % regen on caster boots helps reduce that. I tried the base ~600 mana obsession build and it is way too low, and has to quaff potions nonstop, but by 1500 max mana its clearly overkill and you can't even drop it at all, so somewhere inbetween where mana very slowly depletes but recharges as soon as you stop teleporting at all, feels plenty



well in that clip I don't think I cast it once. You could do ubers with pure tainted dps, or with pure bound demon dps, the most blood boil can do is help kill some summons. Also, I didn't even bother using open wounds on merc in that clip, a toothrow armor setup makes it significantly faster
in regular PvM like terror zones, I use blood boil against any fire immune unique/champion pack or against heralds of any kind, and don't bother with it against pretty much anything else unless its a really dense pack of fire immune trash that's worth killing like carvers/flayers

This post was edited by Goomshill on Jun 2 2026 05:00pm

dont you think we can get more "afk damage" taking out max engorge and maxing out bind demon? since the use of bb is purelly for some fire imunes.. unless you using phys sunder and jewel for more phys bb damage?

That was the SP build in that clip actually, I'm assuming if you're doing ubers its on a dedicated char. And you could use dreadfang merc for amp instead and just throw a defiler + consume (just for HP, assuming you bind the 3 primes with 1 defile)

not really im doing a do it all build xD already tested from demon machine warlock to bb and full sumons and all are really good, long term goal is finish chronicle on hc im playing on p8 and have enchantress and bo barb

This post was edited by m4rin1 on Jun 2 2026 05:28pm