Quote (Many_Names @ 2 Jun 2026 08:23)

When a state is attacked from across a sovereign border (like Lebanon or Gaza), international law standardly gives that country the right to permanently neutralize the threat.

But for Israel, the international community demands that it treat terrorist proxies as permanent, legitimate neighbors. Israel is told it must rely on international bodies like UNIFIL or international guarantees to keep the border safe, even though history has proven over and over again that these forces completely melt away the second a proxy decides to rebuild its arsenal.

The deepest irony of this international strategy is that it achieves the exact opposite of what it claims to want. By constantly stepping in to enforce a ceasefire before a terrorist organization can be completely dismantled, the international community doesn't bring stability it subsidizes the next war.

It creates a reality where proxies like Hezbollah can absorb a massive hit, sit safely behind an internationally enforced diplomatic shield, spend five years rearming with better Iranian missiles, and then start the cycle all over again

For the world, a "constrained" Israel is a convenient shock absorber that keeps a massive regional fire contained. But for the people actually living inside that shock absorber, it means a lifetime of waiting for the next siren to go off

If you do not support Israel you stand with terrorist organization

Quote (Many_Names @ Jun 2 2026 07:23am)

When a state is attacked from across a sovereign border (like Lebanon or Gaza), international law standardly gives that country the right to permanently neutralize the threat.

But for Israel, the international community demands that it treat terrorist proxies as permanent, legitimate neighbors. Israel is told it must rely on international bodies like UNIFIL or international guarantees to keep the border safe, even though history has proven over and over again that these forces completely melt away the second a proxy decides to rebuild its arsenal.

The deepest irony of this international strategy is that it achieves the exact opposite of what it claims to want. By constantly stepping in to enforce a ceasefire before a terrorist organization can be completely dismantled, the international community doesn't bring stability it subsidizes the next war.

It creates a reality where proxies like Hezbollah can absorb a massive hit, sit safely behind an internationally enforced diplomatic shield, spend five years rearming with better Iranian missiles, and then start the cycle all over again

For the world, a "constrained" Israel is a convenient shock absorber that keeps a massive regional fire contained. But for the people actually living inside that shock absorber, it means a lifetime of waiting for the next siren to go off

If you do not support Israel you stand with terrorist organization

Quote (Many_Names @ Jun 1 2026 11:23pm)

When a state is attacked from across a sovereign border (like Lebanon or Gaza), international law standardly gives that country the right to permanently neutralize the threat.

But for Israel, the international community demands that it treat terrorist proxies as permanent, legitimate neighbors. Israel is told it must rely on international bodies like UNIFIL or international guarantees to keep the border safe, even though history has proven over and over again that these forces completely melt away the second a proxy decides to rebuild its arsenal.

The deepest irony of this international strategy is that it achieves the exact opposite of what it claims to want. By constantly stepping in to enforce a ceasefire before a terrorist organization can be completely dismantled, the international community doesn't bring stability it subsidizes the next war.

It creates a reality where proxies like Hezbollah can absorb a massive hit, sit safely behind an internationally enforced diplomatic shield, spend five years rearming with better Iranian missiles, and then start the cycle all over again

For the world, a "constrained" Israel is a convenient shock absorber that keeps a massive regional fire contained. But for the people actually living inside that shock absorber, it means a lifetime of waiting for the next siren to go off

If you do not support Israel you stand with terrorist organization

Quote (Many_Names @ Jun 2 2026 01:23am)

When a state is attacked from across a sovereign border (like Lebanon or Gaza), international law standardly gives that country the right to permanently neutralize the threat.

But for Israel, the international community demands that it treat terrorist proxies as permanent, legitimate neighbors. Israel is told it must rely on international bodies like UNIFIL or international guarantees to keep the border safe, even though history has proven over and over again that these forces completely melt away the second a proxy decides to rebuild its arsenal.

The deepest irony of this international strategy is that it achieves the exact opposite of what it claims to want. By constantly stepping in to enforce a ceasefire before a terrorist organization can be completely dismantled, the international community doesn't bring stability it subsidizes the next war.

It creates a reality where proxies like Hezbollah can absorb a massive hit, sit safely behind an internationally enforced diplomatic shield, spend five years rearming with better Iranian missiles, and then start the cycle all over again

For the world, a "constrained" Israel is a convenient shock absorber that keeps a massive regional fire contained. But for the people actually living inside that shock absorber, it means a lifetime of waiting for the next siren to go off

If you do not support Israel you stand with terrorist organization

Quote (Gilgameshed @ Jun 2 2026 06:15pm)

Great. So you will all understand why your little genocidal terrorist state is the enemy of the world, and as of late, Americans.

When the average American comes to terms with who you are, the righteous anger that results will have you and yours dropping to your knees and praying for Adolf Hitler to come save you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSha6s8H0HU

Quote (ferdia @ Jun 2 2026 12:54pm)

The average American is irrelevant though. it is all about US foreign policy. and democratic and republican leaders are Pro-Israel.

Quote (Gilgameshed @ Jun 2 2026 07:15pm)

The future belongs to the ardent youth. No matter how much the boomers wish otherwise, they are not going to be around forever. But yes, we have real issues here that need to be addressed as well. I feel like it is time for the US govt to receive an update as to patch the known exploits.

Quote (ferdia @ Jun 2 2026 01:25pm)

This is more of an idealistic world view. If we take the US as an example, US foreign policy has not changed since 1963. So if you said what you said, say, 60 years ago, 60 years later I could refute by saying: No, the future belongs to whichever government / power figure is in charge at that time. Even looking back 10 years ago you can trace a steady decline in US foreign policy re: Diplomacy and Negotiations. Also, the American Gov is not about to do a hard reset. The Republican Party has more problems now then ever before, and ditto for the Democratic party. There is no evidence to support the notion that the Political landscape in the US is due to improve over the next 10 years, but there is ample evidence to support that it will get worse. Same for the UK, Same for Israel, Same for Germany etc etc etc.

Quote (Gilgameshed @ Jun 2 2026 07:33pm)

All we can do is move forward towards our ideals of progress. I am keeping my eye on a Massie-Ro Khanna split R/D ticket in 2028. Assuming we don't see some crazy shit in the meantime, which does seem to be in the cards as well.

Things are reaching a fever pitch. Not there just yet, but we are close.

Quote (ferdia @ Jun 2 2026 01:52pm)

Eh, we are living in interesting times unfortunately. expect alot to happen between now and 2028 around the world.

Also, I am not sure if this was posted before, i'll just drop it here for anyone that ever wants to go over this thread from start to finish. This as I understand it was a BBC commissioned Documentary which the BBC later dropped, only for Channel 4 to pick it up and release it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iv3wpeJ6Oco