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May 31 2026 03:00am
Like the whole 260 pages you guys have been back and forth on. You have 5 months of open discussion and you keep coming back. That's a positive thing.


ya its turned into a great christian thread :)
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ya its turned into a great christian cope thread :)


Fify

How is that blade of grass proof coming along? Or are you still recovering after the title bait?
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May 31 2026 03:33am
If anybody says the following about God changing His ways:

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If morality tied to god then it makes it arbitrary. For instance if god decides killing or stealing is fine then they become relative to what side of the bed he wakes up. If god commands actions because they are good then moral standards already exist independently and divine authority is redundant.


Then listen to these Bible Verses about the glory of God:

Psalm 19:1 ESV
The heavens declare the glory of God,
and the sky above proclaims his handiwork.

Isaiah 6:3 ESV

And one called to another and said:

“Holy, holy, holy is the Lord of hosts;
the whole earth is full of his glory!”

Revelation 4:11 ESV

“Worthy are you, our Lord and God,
to receive glory and honor and power,
for you created all things,
and by your will they existed and were created.”

Exodus 33:18-23 ESV

18 Moses said, “Please show me your glory.” 19 And he said, “I will make all my goodness pass before you and will proclaim before you my name ‘The Lord.’ And I will be gracious to whom I will be gracious, and will show mercy on whom I will show mercy. 20 But,” he said, “you cannot see my face, for man shall not see me and live.” 21 And the Lord said, “Behold, there is a place by me where you shall stand on the rock, 22 and while my glory passes by I will put you in a cleft of the rock, and I will cover you with my hand until I have passed by. 23 Then I will take away my hand, and you shall see my back, but my face shall not be seen.”

Hebrews 1:3 ESV

He is the radiance of the glory of God and the exact imprint of his nature, and he upholds the universe by the word of his power. After making purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high

Exodus 9:16 ESV

But for this purpose I have raised you up, to show you my power, so that my name may be proclaimed in all the earth.

As you can see, God cares a lot about His glory. All He does is for His glory whether it is in judgement or mercy, it is all for His glory. By suggesting that He would change by not bringing glory to His name is absurd as it completely undermines so much about what is written in The Bible. God is the same yesterday, today and forever.
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Fify

How is that blade of grass proof coming along? Or are you still recovering after the title bait?


you have no explanation for the blade of grass. you merely insist on denial with out explanation. which proves the blade of grass.
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you have no explanation for the blade of grass. you merely insist on denial with out explanation. which proves the blade of grass.


That is not proof that is an argument from ignorance ‐ where something is claimed to be true or false because of a lack of evidence to the contrary.





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That is not proof that is an argument from ignorance ‐ where something is claimed to be true or false because of a lack of evidence to the contrary.

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its not a argument from ignorance. the advancements of science has proven the 'atheist idea of abiogenesis and 'evolution can now be considered lunacy. so much so even the super duperiest of imaginations richard dawkins is now willing to consider "the aliens dun it" which is admission to a creator. lol all has come full circle with the 'atheist slamming into a wall
all the advancements of science have done is make clowns out of 'atheists and their imaginations while staying in harmony with scripture. its been a cruel world for the 'atheist

first meme is a strawman
nobody says that

ya dark matter is a mystery
the rest of the meme is more strawman
nobody says that

the third meme the last sentence should say "try 'atheism" lol the biggest snotnosed arrogant people

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its not a argument from ignorance. the advancements of science has proven the 'atheist idea of abiogenesis and 'evolution can now be considered lunacy. so much so even the super duperiest of imaginations richard dawkins is now willing to consider "the aliens dun it" which is admission to a creator. lol all has come full circle with the 'atheist slamming into a wall
all the advancements of science have done is make clowns out of 'atheists and their imaginations while staying in harmony with scripture. its been a cruel world for the 'atheist

first meme is a strawman
nobody says that

ya dark matter is a mystery
the rest of the meme is more strawman
nobody says that

the third meme the last sentence should say "try 'atheism" lol the biggest snotnosed arrogant people


What does abiogenesis and evolution have to do with atheism? You made an argument from ignorance now you are clearly having another meltdown by trying to blame Dawkins or whatever this rant is about.
Instead of pointing fingers and engaging in whataboutisms why don't you prove god on his own merit. Show how he is real without crying about science or Dawkins.

It appears you haven't learned anything about logical fallacies I've been teaching you, still can't identify what a basic strawman looks like.

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What does abiogenesis and evolution have to do with atheism? You made an argument from ignorance now you are clearly having another meltdown by trying to blame Dawkins or whatever this rant is about.
Instead of pointing fingers and engaging in whataboutisms why don't you prove god on his own merit. Show how he is real without crying about science or Dawkins.

It appears you haven't learned anything about logical fallacies I've been teaching you, still can't identify what a basic strawman looks like.


lol used to be everything :)
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lol used to be everything :)


No you are making shit up as usual. If you can't prove your god better keep quiet, no one asked your opinions on Dawkins or hear you cry about science.
Science is a different subject entirely this is about your proof of your magic claims and nothing else.

Clearly you don't have it.
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No you are making shit up as usual. If you can't prove your god better keep quiet, no one asked your opinions on Dawkins or hear you cry about science.
Science is a different subject entirely this is about your proof of your magic claims and nothing else.

Clearly you don't have it.


the issue with this thread is you're asking for empirical evidence for the triune God who transcends materialism, it's a category error, it's similar in error to asking me what the concept of 5 tastes like. empiricism has nothing to say about the non-material and empiricism itself cannot even justify its own axioms. for empiricism to be valid we have to justify the preconditions of logic itself, which is why i gave you a metalogical argument on like page 2 or 3 of this thread. no other worldview other than the orthodox christian worldview can coherently explain the preconditions for intelligibility and attempting to debate that is far more interesting than just posting like reddit tier memes to me. idk how you have no genuine interest in epistemology or metaphysics or any topic of philosophy and actually coherently understanding worldviews. the orthodox christian worldview completely and coherently explains the validity of empiricism, but you have not offered any reason why we ought accept your undefined worldview that cannot justify empiricism.

what you're doing is completely borrowing the metaphysical baggage of christianity that is the foundation for your entire epistemology including the possibility of science, empiricism, and then simply denying metaphysics without offering an alternative worldview that can justify the possibility of intelligibility.

it's why we're making 0 progress in this thread, there is no neutral worldview and everything is theory-laden so without justification of your own worldview we can make no progress.
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