All you need to do is step outside and look at the world, or since you are unwilling to do that, tune into the 6:00 news every night. So once again you read the passages and then you...I.N.V.E.S.T.I.G.A.T.E. You can even go to the extreme by going to the HolyLandSite Domain and sign up to see the real places The Bible has spoken about. You would need to fly from New Zealand to the other side of the world. If you are, for some reason, unwilling to do that you can watch a movie called "The Case For Christ". You can live vicariously through the one who set out to disprove Christianity once and for all. See where that ends up.

I would expect that you might have noticed the state of the world right now that you wouldn't need to demand such proof of sin? Just look up from your screen and out into the real world.

Because the devil has manage to convince you that you have no need of the cross, look at the outcome of that with how you created this thread and everything along with it.

ya he does when he titles the book that way. doesnt matter what comes after. just more proof he is a shyster.

It's the topic of the book, not the claim of the book.

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ya he does when he titles the book that way. doesnt matter what comes after. just more proof he is a shyster.

maybe we can agree its a dumb title?

This post was edited by TiStuff on May 29 2026 08:04pm

The title is what the book is about.


The book is about how a universe actually came from something.

I'm not sure what you are on about, but if you are claiming that Krauss thinks a universe came from nothing then you are wrong and you should stop making that claim.

This post was edited by x_h on May 29 2026 08:10pm

You have made an unsubstantiated claim that doesn't have any basis in reality. Moral relativity is self evident while moral absolute is a religious snake oil. Even then you haven't escaped moral relativism as it still depended on the god you worship and your interpretation of his/her morality.

If morality tied to god then it makes it arbitrary. For instance if god decides killing or stealing is fine then they become relative to what side of the bed he wakes up. If god commands actions because they are good then moral standards already exist independently and divine authority is redundant.

Since god is purely faith-based anyone can say god commanded them to perform all kinds of like acts. You would have no way of challenging those beliefs. It gets interesting when two diametrically opposing faiths clash and even when intra faith conflicts arise. It makes me chuckle as the gullible people who think god whispers in their ear get into a fight with other people who think god whispers to them. The poor bastards don't realise its their own ego

Conclusion either god talks in everyone's ear and creates chaos through conflicting morals, commands OR he doesn't exist, none of the gods exist, and its only organized religions who are using god to justify their own selfish agendas.

The sheer volume of religions and even thousands of interpretations within christian faith alone suggests no one has a fucking clue, not one unifying way. Just falliable people who are using god as their alter ego.



LOL tistuff got baited by the title classic! Attempts a gotcha instantly backfires.

This post was edited by addone on May 29 2026 08:47pm

dawkins 0:33 ....something can come from nothing and that's what physicists are now telling us, you can dispute exactly what what's meant by by nothing but whatever


This post was edited by TiStuff on May 29 2026 09:16pm

What's the point of sharing this video?

lol you dont know who dawkins is?
part of everything i post on this thread. proving the rise of 'atheism has been a abject failure and a blight on the scientific method.

i need to add lawence krauss to this list. also work in dawkins

1. Charles Darwin and the theory of 'evolution- gets a pass because he didnt call it fact
2.haeckels embryo drawings- 1874- early detected fraud- mass reprinted in textbooks as "proof" for 'evolution. 'atheists "the super logic minds" never did chit to challenge this. when do 'atheists actually become "scientific" as opposed to just "agenda" based liars
3rd piltdown man 1912- 'atheists hold themselves on high claiming to be the greatest critical thinkers that ever graced the world- longest running fraud in the history of modern science. the real mystery is how these clowns ever became the face of modern science?
4th nebraska man 1922- a master work of 'atheist imagination figuring out stuff........
5th whale evolution. incomplete fossils are the best kind of fossils. in fact the worse condition a fossil is in the better it proves 'evolution for some reason? as we will see more of this 'atheist magic in later posts
6th junk DNA should of been the end of atheism. but imaginations and delusions are not defeated by things like facts
7. Harlen Bretz 1927- dont bring science we dont like.
8.Australopithecus afarensis 1978 - aka lucy "missing link" APE fossil with no hands, feet or face. gets reconstructed with human hands, human feet and face of choice. then its called "proof" of evolution.

.9 1980's rna world hypothesis
RNA WORLD HYPOTHESIS was the 'atheists answer to abiogenesis. O and how smug the 'atheists guffawing and pushing it in everyones face.
the lack of being scientific rigorous when the experiment (that was already passed peer reviewed)was tested for "repeatable" it miserably failed and was retracted.
the 'atheist clown show repeated it self once again. being sloppy in science methodology and now has contaminated the peer review process.
but i can give some credit as the person responsible for the paper said in a rare honest moment rarely seen in 'atheist science
The authors—one of them a Nobel Laureate—later confessed, “In retrospect, we were totally blinded by our belief” and “we were not as careful or rigorous as we should have been.

‘RNA World’ Paper Retracted
https://larshaukeland.com/bits-pieces/scientific-articles/rna-world-paper-retracted/

that the 'atheist community never called any of this abuse of science out is just more proof what a failure the whole of 'atheism is..........

'atheism and their claims of "critical thinking" is just a trash can full of chit

This post was edited by TiStuff on May 29 2026 09:22pm