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May 29 2026 06:43am
I've been trying to theorize what is the safest possible two person ubers team for hardcore.

You can factor uber ancient and/or uber trist

You can factor budget or end game gear.

You can factor easy mechanics like click and hold, or complex skill changing.

You can factor a bo barb and chant that will leave the game to reduce back to players two. Or any other prebuffs, and factor any merc setup.

Ive been thinking double smiter: 1 with sanctuary and 1 with fanatacism. Bo barb would prebuff and leave. A chanter could also chant the mercs and leave.

Or what about some sort of barb / smiter combo? That barb could have zero warcry skills and be prebuffed by a different bo barb.

Any feedback is appreciated.

(I tried necro summoner/ smiter, summoner really needs a buff imo the 180 seconds revive is a deal breaker)
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May 29 2026 07:08am
two locks one to kill and one to watch
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May 29 2026 07:08am
javazon + smiter with salvation

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May 29 2026 07:59am
Berd Guardian angel (for +30% faster block and 95 res) smiter with coa ber ber. Smiter bag all 20/5 small charms anni torch. Buffed by max bo barb.

I dont think smiter at 6k life 95% all res max dr will die to ubers.
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May 29 2026 08:54am
The biggest thing I've noticed is just how hard the fire twisters from Talic's lvl 2/3 hit, so if you can mitigate that, it's probably pretty easy. I've been doing them with a dragondin paladin and trying to stack lightning/fire resist. I haven't read too much about the mechanics, but it looks like they have some form of aura/attack that drops your resists by hundreds, so even when I have 200 of each stacked and a tgods/dwarf I still get hit hard by those fire twisters when killing Korlic first.

I think the safest 2 person team might just be one smiter running a regular setup with fire/light absorb gear, and another set up as a zealer but running resist fire aura so that you don't have to crazy overcap that resist and can focus on other survivability/kill speed.
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May 29 2026 08:57am
Necro good also for meat shield and curses
The 2nd will be pure dmg
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May 29 2026 09:51am
javazon + smiter with salvation


Javazon seems squishy especially for uber ancients. I have doubts this would be safest.
Berd Guardian angel (for +30% faster block and 95 res) smiter with coa ber ber. Smiter bag all 20/5 small charms anni torch. Buffed by max bo barb.

I dont think smiter at 6k life 95% all res max dr will die to ubers.


Fair enough. Extreme amounts of gear required. My instincts want to say a barb waiting in town adds an uncessecary risk due to lack of kill speed. A true 2 person team should be better than 1 in theory.
Thank you for the response.
The biggest thing I've noticed is just how hard the fire twisters from Talic's lvl 2/3 hit, so if you can mitigate that, it's probably pretty easy. I've been doing them with a dragondin paladin and trying to stack lightning/fire resist. I haven't read too much about the mechanics, but it looks like they have some form of aura/attack that drops your resists by hundreds, so even when I have 200 of each stacked and a tgods/dwarf I still get hit hard by those fire twisters when killing Korlic first.

I think the safest 2 person team might just be one smiter running a regular setup with fire/light absorb gear, and another set up as a zealer but running resist fire aura so that you don't have to crazy overcap that resist and can focus on other survivability/kill speed.


Great response. I like the logic. How would a flickering flame factor in to that equation? Does it really have to be zeal? What about a dual smiter 1 with flickering flame?
Necro good also for meat shield and curses
The 2nd will be pure dmg


The revive timer of 180 seconds really makes necro a poor choice in my opinion. Thank you for the response.
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May 29 2026 09:56am
A sorc to hold it while smiler pounces away
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May 29 2026 02:35pm
2 smiters based on your assumption of having BO barb already. Other classes add more dmg but we are just talking safety, so 2 auras is better than one. Mercs and summons will all die. Another option is 2 warlock or smiter warlock since demons might be able to tank, or they used to be able to. You can also use lethargy. Though you could get rings with charges also.

This post was edited by dbulger on May 29 2026 02:46pm
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May 29 2026 02:51pm
If you allow for a BO barb prebuff than there is no danger whatsoever. I don’t get the question if that’s allowed.
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