Israel is a country with immigration laws like any other country. Same as you can gain Italian citizenship if you have Italian blood.
What the Palestinians are referring to is not a “law” but a “right”. Like human right or any other right. They may establish their own country with their own immigration laws.
Now let’s dig into your statement about “return to their homes” - how many out of all Palestinian refugees have been actively kicked out ? Surely not millions. I think the numbers are around 100K.
Palestinians are the only people which gain refugee status by inheritance.

You make it sound like you are a peaceful neighbour which is either complete delusion or just a straight up lie. Israel has been an aggressor for the main part and has topped it off by illegally occupying gaza for 80+ years.... Latest israel have unjustly murdered 25,000 kids and more than 90,000 people in total. That's not against a hostile group. YOU are the hostile group.
You claim to want to live peaceful next to the palestinians? Is that what israel is doing in the west bank when they attack elderly ladies and shoot at schools full of kids? Is that peaceful life?
From the river to the sea is not just a palestine slogan it's also an israeli one that defines the greater israel project. Something your current prime minister is enacting in real time by illegally expanding borders.

Can you imagine making a genocide where you murder 90,000 people incl 25,000 kids where you starve like 2mio more people creating a famine and where you torture people in prisons and keeping them there without any trial incl kids, and you're passing laws that grants the military right to execute them by hanging, celebrating that fact on national television with champagne and a cake with a noose on it and destroying 90% of all their infrastructure and call for them all to die and leave and then ask someone to find 3 of those people that will go on live televsion to support them. Like that's proof of something.

What the actual fuck

First, the discussion was about the conflict and its solution when you presented a thesis which I showed clearly that it ain’t solving sh*t.
Second, you didn’t address a single claim I made. Only shifted the discussion again to the place most convenient to you which is ofc to talk about Israel’s wrongs. I never said Israel is all great and clean. We make our fair share in the bloodshed. But the way that you always ignore the reason of why this conflict is endless and bring up the “greater Israel project” is just amazing. What a stupid theory that is lol. Repeat it all you like it’s just stupid. Over exaggerated stupid narrative. In our next election this gov is going to go to hell and you’ll see that the Israelis has an alternative. Does the Palestinians ? No. Never in history.
Third, the Palestinians are more than capable to kill women and children as well. As we saw. Many time. You seem to forget that.

/edit please try to provide voices of Palestinians calling for peace next to the Israelis. Let’s see if we can find any.

This post was edited by WhiteSouned on May 25 2026 11:36pm

Yes i bring up greater isael quite a lot because the israeli prime minister, your prime minister, was asked like 2 weeks ago if it was near to his heart and his response was "it's very near to my heart". Then when you see how israel is taking land now in lebanon how they do in syria it's becoming pretty clear what the end goal is. Then i have you here, sitting and arguing that peoples homes and houses that israelis stole after murdering and displacing people that they should just give up because it's "never ever going to happen" that they get their possessions or homes back i think it becomes pretty clear what we're dealing with here. And then you have the gaul to argue that the reason palestinians are bad is because they don't support it. This line of reasoning is so alien to me that i'm having a hard time comprehending how evil it actually might be.

I'm not going to sit and google which palestinians support their own genocide. Who in their right mind would support such barbarity to begin with.

A wall of text that completely misses the point.
1. I asked you to google which Palestinian support peace next to Israel as in support of a Palestinian state next to Israeli one.
2. As I said, this gov is bad and will be replaced. Which alternative to the extremists does the Palestinians offer ?
3.i didn’t said the Palestinians are “bad”. I said that the reason why the conflict prolong itself is because they refuse to end their 100 years war against Zionism.
4. All people kicked from their houses are entitled for some compensation. In the 100 times I’ll write again - that’s not what the Palestinians are claiming. They claim for the return of all refugees as in millions of Palestinians which most of them weren’t even born here.
5. Maybe it’ll be easier for you to google some other conflict, as an example how similar conflicts like ours are solved by the UN. You let me know which one you find that population got thier “right of return”.

People understand the analogy you’re making with Italian descent. However, Israel was only established in the 1940s — most Jews who immigrated there did not descend from prior Israeli citizens, but rather shared Jewish ancestry or identity.

So the comparison is not entirely symmetrical. The unresolved issue is that Palestinians (who have lived in Israel for centuries) are being displaced from the territory itself and have limited or disputed return rights, while people with Jewish ancestry from other countries can immigrate and obtain citizenship under the Law of Return eventhough their ties to Israel pale in comparison to Palestinian ties. That asymmetry is the actual point being debated.

This post was edited by ferdia on May 26 2026 04:54am

A. That’s the entier conflict. Displaced Palestinians need and should receive compensation in a similar way that the Jews receive from Germany.
B. I brought the Italian example as it serve as an example for an immigration law. In Israel the law refers to one’s being Jewish or Jewish decent.
B. As far as I know in all similar conflicts around the world no case of “right to return” to the displaced minority was found. This is not a right but a desire. Compensate them somehow and let’s get on with our lives. You insist on joining two nations together, write about asymmetric law while no one of those two nations actually wants to live together.

This post was edited by WhiteSouned on May 26 2026 05:22am

1) How many jews supported peace with Hitler?
2) It's worse than bad it's genocidal it not only needs to be replaced it needs to be put on trial.
-Palestinian authority from West Bank could maybe take Hamas place until such a time a more suitable government is elected.
3) It's not a war it's a massacre and there's absolutely zero evidence to support the fact that zionism will stop attacking you just because you refuse to resist genocide, famine and occupation. Just look at the west bank.
4) They are entitled to compensation, how nice, how about just giving them back their fucking houses and land? Seems if you're willing to admit it was stolen in the first place that seems like the right thing to do.
5) After world war 1 Denmark got Schleswig-Holstein back after years of despute and conflict about the territory but held an election where the territory was then forfeited to Germany because the majority of the population wanted to belong to germany instead of denmark.
In fact most of europes history is about ever changing borders so it can be done through diplomacy and peace. Hopefully israel will give that a chance one day before it's too late.

I will attempt to answer this one.

1. Mahmoud Abbas and Yasser Arafat – leaders of the Palestinian political mainstream – Arafat, as leader of the PLO, and Abbas, as leader of the Palestinian Authority, both represented the dominant Palestinian political current that engaged with the Oslo peace process and accepted a two-state framework based on mutual recognition with Israel in the 1990s. However, both operated under severe political constraints, ongoing conflict dynamics, Israeli security control in parts of the territories, and internal Palestinian political fragmentation, which limited the full implementation and development of the Oslo framework into a stable political settlement. It should be noted that senior Israeli political figures in government have expressed opposition to, or reduced support for, a two-state solution in recent years.

2. Saying the current government is bad and that it will be replaced is not very helpful. For example, in England, the Conservative Party was in government for some time and was considered “bad” by many. It then lost the election by a landslide and Labour formed the new government. However, some people also consider the current government “bad”. The point I am making is that when one government replaces another, we cannot automatically expect things to get better, worse, or meaningfully different in Israel. Do you really expect settlement expansions to stop under a new government?

3. The reality is that Oct 7th was a terrorist attack, not a war. The Israeli response can be described as a war in Gaza. At the same time, settlement expansion in the West Bank continues today. Saying that Palestinians need to end their “war against Zionism” ignores the fact that the conflict is ongoing in the present, not only rooted in events from 70 years ago. It is not only about historical displacement; Palestinians are also affected by current developments, including continued settlement activity in the West Bank.

4. You speak about compensation for people being forced from their homes, but there is no clear Israeli state scheme that Palestinians can access for systematic compensation. The point I am making is that it is wrong to remove people from their homes regardless of historical context. If a Palestinian is forced from their home today, I would argue that those responsible should be held accountable — including settlers involved in illegal displacement, and any officials or security forces complicit in unlawful actions. It should be treated as a serious political and legal issue, because it affects people who are not combatants and are simply living their lives.

5. I agree that Palestinians, and their descendants, who fled Israel 70 years ago should not necessarily have an automatic right of return. However, this raises a consistency question when there is also a legal framework that allows people from outside the region to move to Israel and gain citizenship based on identity or heritage connections. The core issue, to my mind, is the asymmetry in how “return” and belonging are defined and applied in these two cases.

A great post by you m8! Finally we are getting somewhere.
1. Hitler and the Jews are hardly the same thing as Palestinians and Israel. For starters, the Jews were citizens of Germany. They were Germans. The Palestinians are not israelis nor they wish to be. And it goes on and on but if you insist of comparing Israel to Nazi germany I ain’t gonna even debate that.. it’s a very poor comparison. Maybe you can compare Hamas to the nazis it’ll be more accurate.
2. The PLO is the same sh*t basically. Just look at their education system in the West Bank. Children makes plays of killing IDF soldiers , math problems demonising the Jews. All that crap. It’s not even debatable, even the shitty UN had to recognize it.
3. The chicken and the egg. What evidence do I get that the Palestinians will stop attacking me after all this time ? My great grandfather was killed by Palestinians. In 1938. What guarantee do I have ? The only evidence you have is that thier “resistance” brought to them the Nakba and all that follows. A logical person might consider a change in strategy.. and again, it all comes to the same point - you don’t want to compromise, the conflict won’t end.
4. Sure, some of it was stolen. Not ALL of it though. And again, no record history , I’m aware of at least, has showed that conflicts similar to ours were resolved by bringing in a hostile group.
5. Europe and the ME are hardly the same. If it was a conflict about borders only it would have been resolved long ago. I listed the reasons as to why it’s not a border issue but the end of the Jewish state issue.
So no, we would not give them “back” their long gone homes or land. They need to get over it, like the Jews did after WW2 and start to think about the future of their children.