Do they really add a major boost in climb speeds at higher levels?

I tested it out at level 5-15 with a "+18 dex charm (IV)" and there didn't seem to be a noticeable difference.

If I have a mid ranged EE weapon once I get to higher levels will the +dex charms really make a noticeable impact?

What type of charms are you guys using once you're getting closer to your mq. I'd imagine most climbers have a big group they run with so it's probably trivial.

At higher levels it is a very noticable difference. Lower levels monsters die pretty quick so its not as bad.

Upgrading a e.g. 40 --> 50str or dex is not hugely different

But trying to use say a 10ML charm over a 50 str or dex charm is very noticeable.

Probably about 20-30% less damage in the dex vs ML example above, which means monsters have more time to heal, you get hit more, etc.

Because you get hit more times/kill slower which means more healing (i.e. need to deal more damage), its actually much worse than the 20-30% slower.

This post was edited by Bradymuck on May 25 2026 10:45pm

Thanks. Newb question, what's ML? monster level? "But trying to use say a 10ML charm over a 50 str or dex charm is very noticeable." Not sure I understand this statement. Thanks in advance for clarification.


This post was edited by thumpr on May 25 2026 11:00pm

Magic luck.
Its probably the only stat that would be used other than stats (or ee on casters).

This post was edited by Bradymuck on May 25 2026 10:54pm

Thanks for the clarification. Makes perfect sense.

I need to up my charm game

This post was edited by thumpr on May 25 2026 11:01pm

Good stat charm is a huge boost in dmg

with stat charm:

Rare ultimanium axe
Level Req: 55
Damage: 710 to 853

+249% Enhanced Effect
+1% Experience Gained

without:

Rare ultimanium axe
Level Req: 55
Damage: 557 to 668

+249% Enhanced Effect
+1% Experience Gained