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May 20 2026 08:13pm
It doesn't change the fact he has been successful.

Again, I don't even like Trump. But I'm not TDS ridden lefty.


He hasn't though, being handed a golden ticket is not success, its just nepotism.
He has been an abject failure, if he had jammed his inheritance in the stock market he would be FAR wealthier than he is after 30 years of business.
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May 20 2026 09:05pm
He hasn't though, being handed a golden ticket is not success, its just nepotism.
He has been an abject failure, if he had jammed his inheritance in the stock market he would be FAR wealthier than he is after 30 years of business.


I don't think you know what abject means. That would mean he has failed to the maximum degree...yet he has more than doubled his net worth if your number is correct.

Lol. What?
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May 20 2026 09:49pm
I don't think you know what abject means. That would mean he has failed to the maximum degree...yet he has more than doubled his net worth if your number is correct.

Lol. What?


Right but if you are going with his scenario doubling your net worth over that many years is fucking horrendous. I mean at historical market rates you should be doubling without further contributions every 7 years roughly.

So yes doubling your networth over that time frame if given that sum of wealth upfront would be nothing short of utter failure. Again going along with the proposed scenario.

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Right but if you are going with his scenario doubling your net worth over that many years is fucking horrendous. I mean at historical market rates you should be doubling without further contributions every 7 years roughly.

So yes doubling your networth over that time frame if given that sum of wealth upfront would be nothing short of utter failure. Again going along with the proposed scenario.


How delusional do you have to be to think that doubling a fortune of 440 million is a failure? Like what? Is he as successful as he could've been? No. Are you as successful as you could have been? Are you the ultimate optimizer of your wealth diversification and returns? By your logic, that would make anyone a failure. Again, ABJECT failure means failing at the maximum degree, please use correct words. It's not even a matter of grammar policing as a distraction, you and Plague are genuinely wrong.

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How delusional do you have to be to think that doubling a fortune of 440 million is a failure? Like what? Is he as successful as he could've been? No. Are you as successful as you could have been? Are you the ultimate optimizer of your wealth diversification and returns? By your logic, that would make anyone a failure. Again, ABJECT failure means failing at the maximum degree, please use correct words. It's not even a matter of grammar policing as a distraction, you and Plague are genuinely wrong.


I mean yes I do view that as a failure in the scenario you are given an upfront lump sum and all you can do is double it over the time frame in this particular scenario. You could take an ultra conservative approach to investment and double it multiple times.

Yes I expect my investment at minimum to be at or better than the total us market or S&P 500 or I failed. And yes on average I expect based on historical returns to double my money every 7-9 years. I would expect anyone at our age assuming mid 30s to have a very similar expectation. If they do not I suspect they are either financially illiterate or have higher expectations of themselves.


Again I'm just going by the scenario presented. I don't know if it's actually true or not that he did receive that sum of wealth via Trust or Inheritance and what the portfolio allocation / asset classes within were.

Just because the dollars are larger does not mean success if the starting is also large. It's based on % return.

Let's look at it this way. If you hired an investment manager and they only doubled your money over 30 years you would be furious. Fire them and call them incompetent.

This post was edited by SBD on May 20 2026 10:32pm
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How delusional do you have to be to think that doubling a fortune of 440 million is a failure? Like what? Is he as successful as he could've been? No. Are you as successful as you could have been? Are you the ultimate optimizer of your wealth diversification and returns? By your logic, that would make anyone a failure. Again, ABJECT failure means failing at the maximum degree, please use correct words. It's not even a matter of grammar policing as a distraction, you and Plague are genuinely wrong.


Uh mate, it was 440 million in manhatten real estate, all he had to do was exist and it doubled in a few years..
He did not have to do literally anything at all.
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May 21 2026 12:34am
Uh mate, it was 440 million in manhatten real estate, all he had to do was exist and it doubled in a few years..
He did not have to do literally anything at all.


totally joe cool
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May 21 2026 02:27am
This man fails at everything.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voxXDDq58Bk


Trump University (2005–2010): A for-profit "education" company that promised to teach students real estate secrets. It faced multiple lawsuits from students who claimed it was a scam and involved aggressive upselling. The business shut down, and Trump eventually settled a fraud lawsuit for $$25 million.
Trump Airlines (1989–1992): Trump purchased the Eastern Air Shuttle to create a high-end airline experience. Burdened with heavy debt, it struggled financially and was ultimately turned over to creditors.
Trump Vodka (2006–2011): Launched with high promotional fanfare, this brand failed to compete in a crowded market and was eventually discontinued.
Trump Mortgage (2006–2007): Trump started a mortgage company just before the 2008 housing market crash. It collapsed in a little over a year due to poor management and a declining market.
GoTrump.com (2006–2007): A travel booking website designed to compete with sites like Expedia. It folded after only about a year in operation.
Trump Magazine (2007–2009): A luxury lifestyle magazine that struggled to attract advertisers and ceased publication after two years.
Trump Ice (2003): A line of Trump-branded bottled water that quietly faded out of the market due to low impact.
Tour de Trump (1989–1990): A cycling race aimed at being the American equivalent to the Tour de France. Trump withdrew his sponsorship after just two years


In 2024 Donald Trump had about 3-4 Billion
Today Donald Trump has 6-7 Billion

He is not bad at making money.

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May 21 2026 02:31am
Lol America pays for almost 50% of the world's medical research.

Getting dunked on obviously, China must pay for 200% of the world's medical research. Pinko math


you have been saying this repeated for the last while now.

The U.S. is the largest single funder of biomedical research, especially through federal agencies like the NIH, but it does not fund anywhere close to 50% of global medical research overall.

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May 21 2026 05:39am
Uh mate, it was 440 million in manhatten real estate, all he had to do was exist and it doubled in a few years..
He did not have to do literally anything at all.


There are two problems with your point aside from what I've said:

1. He is worth 6-7.5 billion dollars.

2. He chose high risk endeavors, not just passive income with dividends etc. Many of the endeavors failed. This is just like almost every other successful entrepreneur. Rarely do people strike it big the first try.

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