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May 19 2026 02:39pm
ive literally tried to bind a heph with 20 hard points all the way down to him being killed by my emilio... still cant bind him


Do you have the hardpoints or you're just using +skills?
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May 19 2026 02:39pm
hard points, but i finally got it to work. i think its litearlly the chance to get it is so low, and theres only so much time between u dmging them and ur merc killiing them
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May 19 2026 02:43pm
Just tried and bound hephasto in hell p8 on my first try with nothing special, just 20 hard points and regular setup
I still want to test to have any idea of how tanky demons actually are now, particular against heralds


Big notable change: when they said they adjusted consume bonuses, they actually enabled the +skills from consuming hephasto that were originally in the data files but didn't work for whatever reason
And not only that, its buffed from the +2 skills before, and consuming hephasto right now grants you +4 all skills (!)
It actually works, it appears he indeed now gives holy fire aura, 20% dr and +4 all skills


somewhat ironically, this means you could actually prebuff your summoned tainted by binding hephasto, then summoning 3 tainted to override the consume buff. Not 100% sure the +skills will apply to the 3rd tainted but lmao
but you'd need an all-in build to do that, losing skill points elsewhere, since it takes 20 skill points and afaik hephasto was the only monster with +skills. At least he was in datamining from 3.1, but they supposedly changed consume stats in 3.2 so maybe there's a non-superunique that could do it now

This post was edited by Goomshill on May 19 2026 02:46pm
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May 19 2026 02:45pm
hard points, but i finally got it to work. i think its litearlly the chance to get it is so low, and theres only so much time between u dmging them and ur merc killiing them


well u ever tried catching a mewtwo with no masterball?

now thats low chance
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May 19 2026 02:48pm
Just tried and bound hephasto in hell p8 on my first try with nothing special, just 20 hard points and regular setup
I still want to test to have any idea of how tanky demons actually are now, particular against heralds


Big notable change: when they said they adjusted consume bonuses, they actually enabled the +skills from consuming hephasto that were originally in the data files but didn't work for whatever reason
And not only that, its buffed from the +2 skills before, and consuming hephasto right now grants you +4 all skills (!)
It actually works, it appears he indeed now gives holy fire aura, 20% dr and +4 all skills


somewhat ironically, this means you could actually prebuff your summoned tainted by binding hephasto, then summoning 3 tainted to override the consume buff. Not 100% sure the +skills will apply to the 3rd tainted but lmao


i think the trick would be to get a heph with phys immune, stone skin, immune to light, etc, thats also cursed and holy freeze, from p8 lvl 96 tz. those should sell on jsp for like 3k fg
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May 19 2026 02:52pm
did a quick test run on p1. it's raining shards now, heralds are way more frequent (no more drawing the ire, just appears) and die noticeably faster but they still only drop crap
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May 19 2026 02:53pm
hard points, but i finally got it to work. i think its litearlly the chance to get it is so low, and theres only so much time between u dmging them and ur merc killiing them


It is. The chance was reduced as indicated on the notes.

Apart from that they pretty much messed my lovely firelock :(


  • Need to put 19 more points on bind demon to have elite demon bound.
  • Need to put 10 base points on demonic mastery now.
  • No chance to have hephasto conviction aura bound.
  • Cursing 5% of the time instead of 75%
  • Reduced flame wave dmg.


Results in less points to be invested on consume and way less dmg through missing conv. aura. Disappointing (but expected...).

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May 19 2026 02:56pm
my conv amp lightning enchant lvl 20 bind demon lister was swapped with a version with fana instead. wtfux I am a fire warlock running cheap style, this is gonna slow my tz clear rate by quite a bit.
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May 19 2026 02:57pm
i think the trick would be to get a heph with phys immune, stone skin, immune to light, etc, thats also cursed and holy freeze, from p8 lvl 96 tz. those should sell on jsp for like 3k fg


Cursed will be a lot less powerful now. A bound demon, with Cursed, now only has a 5% chance to curse enemies instead of 75%.
Instead of 3 out of every 4 attacks casting curse, it's now 1 out of every 20 attacks casting curse.
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May 19 2026 02:57pm
Cursed will be a lot less powerful now. A bound demon, with Cursed, now only has a 5% chance to curse enemies instead of 75%.
Instead of 3 out of every 4 attacks casting curse, it's now 1 out of every 20 attacks casting curse.


yes, but holy freeze does dmg AOE, so 5% chance x 20 monsters around u =100% chance
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