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Here you can geek out and debate your little hearts out on everything regarding philosophy, logic, arguments and reason itself.

I'll kick things off by asking a question.

Is Logic discovered or invented or both/neither?

For discovered - this side proponents (logical realists) argue that logical truths and relationships are inherent in the universe and existent irrespective of human thought. Often citing law of non contradiction as an observable reality. The logic works because it reflects the fundamental rules the universe operates under. Which implies they existed before humans conceptualize them.

For invented ‐ Instrumentalist and formalist viewpoints suggest that logic was invented as a human construct to systematize reasoning. In this view, while the underlying patterns of valid inference may be universal, the specific formal systems (such as Aristotelian syllogisms or Boolean algebra) are human-made tools or languages designed to model those patterns. Just as mathematics uses invented notation to describe discovered quantities, logic is seen as an invented symbolic framework used to analyze and communicate valid arguments.

For both/neither - Some argue the truths of logic are often considered discovered realities of valid inference, while the formal languages and systems used to express them are invented by humans.
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This post was edited by addone on May 17 2026 06:11am
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#2438 in your other thread
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Logic is a human discovery/invention a mental tool to help us evaluate conclusions follow premises in a systematic framework. Aristotle defined it by setting formal standards or rules which are foundational assumptions. Logic in of itself is circuar because it relies on axioms or first principals.

you make your own claims to logic. by your own statement your a faith based creature. (dam aint that a bich) :)

some ideas have potential
addone has faith he is logic based. but faith is merely believing in something with out evidence.......... right?

This post was edited by TiStuff on May 17 2026 08:54am
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May 17 2026 10:22am
Dad addone combined 2 liquids and they didn't add together because of chemical reaction. Son you cant use logic on liquids, only on rocks tell addone he is dumb (*pats on the head)

Also why don't you demonstrate how smart you are by burning a piece of paper and dont tell him what you are measuring that will show him.


Did yer ai explain to you how dumb this was yet?
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May 17 2026 01:48pm
King + Man - Women = Queen
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King + Man - Women = Queen


Thats some woke maths

King - Man + Woman = Queen

Did yer ai explain to you how dumb this was yet?


Grok is Shadowoffury mad? Yes big mad

This post was edited by addone on May 18 2026 12:49am
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Thats some woke maths
King - Man + Woman = Queen



Grok is Shadowoffury mad? Yes big mad


Its actually simple vector math scaled out to thousands of dimensions to create similarity ranking. The creation of the vector is a science in itself. Insight into the AI brain

https://www.technologyreview.com/2015/09/17/166211/king-man-woman-queen-the-marvelous-mathematics-of-computational-linguistics/

Another non gender example

" paris – france + poland = warsaw. In this case, the vector difference between paris and france captures the concept of capital city."

This post was edited by RedFromWinter on May 18 2026 02:25am
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May 18 2026 11:16am
Thats some woke maths

King - Man + Woman = Queen



Grok is Shadowoffury mad? Yes big mad


I am mad. And you made a thread about logic without knowing what it means. I guess we both have our own problems
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May 18 2026 11:31am
Its actually simple vector math scaled out to thousands of dimensions to create similarity ranking. The creation of the vector is a science in itself. Insight into the AI brain

https://www.technologyreview.com/2015/09/17/166211/king-man-woman-queen-the-marvelous-mathematics-of-computational-linguistics/

Another non gender example

" paris – france + poland = warsaw. In this case, the vector difference between paris and france captures the concept of capital city."


actually the equation would be " paris - france - smell of p*ss + poland = warsaw + migrant scammers

This post was edited by thesnipa on May 18 2026 11:31am
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May 20 2026 06:04am
King + Man - Women = Queen


King + man - women = nothing

A King is a man + another man = two men.

You cant substract a woman from two men.

Its like saying 2 apples - 1 peach = 1 Orange.

Doesnt work like that, sorry.
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