(a) The NHS is the UK’s public healthcare system. National Health Service. (the UK gov has done its best to make it WORSE).
(b) The UK government has developed extensive data and surveillance capabilities over time, particularly in security and public administration (UK citizens do not like this).
(c) Palantir specializes in large-scale data surveillance and analytics software. (nobody likes Palantir)
(d) Palantir is now embedded in parts of UK public-sector data infrastructure. (erff)

Many UK citizens see this trend as increasing the state’s capacity for large-scale data monitoring and worry about privacy and surveillance implications.

This post was edited by ferdia on May 15 2026 06:29am

ya makes sense. i figured they'd just make the system worse while collecting and selling people's data under the guise of optimizing the system and making costs better.

this is the #1 reason i dont like the idea of universal healthcare in the USA, too much govt power. our system sucks too, but things can always be worse. they could be better too tho!

The US SHOULD have a universal health care system. the fact that it does not is a massive blemish against the entire capitalism model and USA#1, in my opinion. Anyway, thats another topic. Palantir is a foreign company, coming in to the UK and its not difficult for me say it should in an ideal world not be allowed anywhere near the NHS.

This post was edited by ferdia on May 15 2026 06:55am

It would be a massive blemish to the entire capitalism model and USA#1 if the private healthcare system of the United States didn’t directly contribute a massive majority of the global healthcare research funds and is directly responsible for a massive majority of all major medical breakthroughs in the modern era.

You could say it’s possible to have universal healthcare and still contribute to research on that level. Great. I’ll agree with you once any of your shitty countries start contributing on anywhere near the level that the united states does to medical research. Until then, you can just say “thank you” to the USA for funding the entire world’s healthcare practices.

USA #1, as usual. And as usual Europeans can not acknowledge how powerfully we are propping up their quality of life, and even use the very facts that prop up their quality of life in order to attack us. Heavy lies the crown

the US should have a more rhobust emergency medical care system for people at or near the poverty line. but i just dont see the upsides of universal healthcare for a population as large and as unhealthy as ours. nor do i trust our govt to run it effectively or free of massive corruption. we're as in bed with tech giants as the UK is and things like this palantir issue would be happening here too.

When I’m in Canada I’ll drive for 10 hours to get back to the US if I need medical treatment because the alternative is to wait six months for an mri.

All these guys get to pretend they’re living in a utopia when they talk to most Americans but I’ve used their system my entire life. It blows. Tons of people cancel, miss or never set up imaging because it takes months and then they die of easily preventable disease that you could have got imaged the next day usually in the usa. I’ll fuckin pay and stay alive, thanks fer the offer tho guys, you keep yer utopia.

I will say it might work slightly better in tiny little countries tho

can you guys like, get a room and go talk about how wonderful your country's healthcare is there. this is a topic about the current English Leader. if you want to post, stay on topic. cheers.
Also if you want to flame people and make racist statements, go make them somewhere else because i dont care for it.

This post was edited by ferdia on May 15 2026 10:12am

No

The NHS is under massive stress, both financially and in terms of staffing. Making it cheaper and/or more efficient would absolutely be a good idea IF it could be done without making it drastically worse in other aspects. Stabilizing the NHS has been one of the longstanding campaign issues of the Labour party; significant setbacks in this regard would further erode public trust in them. And god knows they can't afford to screw up any further.

That being said, I don't see how using Palantir does all that much for this goal. Won't solve the big bulk of the shortage of physicians or nurses, and will only marginally reduce waste. Giving them access to all this sensible data seems like a too steep price if you ask me.



Side note: universal healthcare is not the same as the British single payer system. You can also have universal healthcare and multiple competing public health funds. That's the system used, for example, by France, Germany, the Netherlands and many more.

Just to add to this, as an example of the issues faced by the NHS, during the conservative rule they adopted a political scheme whereby many non-EU nurses working in the NHS on Tier 2 visas would have had to leave the UK after six years unless they earned at least £35,000 a year - a salary most nurses did not reach at the time. Critics described this as “kicking out” or “deporting” foreign nurses. its not a far stretch to say the conservative government was racist, or if not racist, carried out multiple shenanigans that a critic could argue, was racist.

stuff like this just made the NHS worse again.

This post was edited by ferdia on May 16 2026 10:29am