Quote (Hajun123 @ May 11 2026 07:57pm)

Thanks for the detailed breakdown

Im aware of this but never applied on ladder playthrough bec the goal for pala is to get to chaos sanctuary asap and seal doesnt count for total elite packs anyway.

This is particularly most useful for sorc and barb with their usual farming areas. For hammerdin w enigma and nova sorc, the static path and density to chaos yields more loot vs optimizing other loc.

This is definitely used for current tz farm but next season regular mobs can spawn heralds

Quote (sirwhatshisname @ May 11 2026 07:45pm)

Updated version just about ready to go! Made some more discoveries :)

Quote (Emiliaaa @ May 11 2026 10:22pm)

Didn't know you were gonna update it! I bumped it so it wouldn't expire and be unbumpable. Its an important thread to keep alive imo.

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Quote (sirwhatshisname @ May 11 2026 10:29pm)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSyn3i1ngnHHaNl96ZE0Tp108lr9QnaQAsAVDPnNwoZGJGklLglcny3evhF7i4I-3a_HZ2IvtxG4GCw/pubhtml Open to the public with regular updates. Forgive the aesthetic, I use excel far more than sheets, but this way is easier to share.



I'll convert the active table to a plain text thats friendlier for copy-paste into jsp, and easier on the contrast :)

Quote (sirwhatshisname @ Mar 4 2026 08:51pm)

Hey everyone, I'm here to share some findings with you.

The Science of EKPM: Saturation Glitching, Native Caps, and Optimal Bail Points

Following up on my one of my posts regarding the "Saturation Glitch," I’ve spent the last few days deep-diving into the spawning logic for every major farm zone in the game.
The goal was to map out hard-coded champion groups and TC85 density to provide a comprehensive Act 1–5 efficiency roadmap.

The Theory: Native Caps & Supersaturation
For those who missed the previous thread, most zones are governed by a Native Cap—a hard limit on how many random elite packs the engine can generate.
However, by utilizing specific pathing to force the game to roll random elites before rendering fixed Superuniques (e.g., Griswold) or Guaranteed Champion tiles (e.g., Tristram Center), you can achieve Supersaturation.

Example: By hugging the wall and clearing Tristram counter-clockwise, you can consistently force 6 packs to spawn, effectively doubling the ROI of a "casual" 3-pack run.

What’s New in this Version:
Act 2-5 Expansion: Full mapping of every high-yield zone from Stony Tomb and Ancient Tunnels to the Act 5 Red Portals (Abaddon/Acheron/Infernal Pit).

The "Bail Point" Meta: The biggest killer of EKPM (Elites Killed Per Minute) is the "Full Clear Trap." The last 1–2 packs in a zone are mathematically "trap packs"—the time spent hunting them in corners ruins your efficiency. I’ve added specific Bail Points for every zone so you know exactly when the ROI drops and it's time to reset.

Guaranteed Champion Mapping: Hard-coded spawns (Tristram Center, Frozen River guards, etc.) are now identified to serve as anchors for your pathing.

The Technical Legend: For the theory crafters, I’ve defined the internal mechanics including Saturation, Supersaturation, and Native Caps.

The Goal: Optimize the Grind
Efficiency isn't just about how fast you kill; it's about how many bosses you see per hour. This table is built to help you hit high-density clusters and bail the second your efficiency peaks. Whether you're running a Pit-Zerker or a 200 FCR Blizzard Sorc, following these pathing/bail rules will result in more bases and HRs over time.

TL;DR: Spawning Superuniques last pushes packs above the cap. Stop full clearing; use the Bail Points.

I'm always looking for more numbers—if you notice any pack count variances or weird spawn clusters during your runs, drop the data in the comments below, I'm constantly updating the table. Happy Horking.

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