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May 9 2026 06:29am
So according to you 100% of scientific studies on the Earth are fake, 100% of government footage and photos are fake, 100% of footage and photos from high enough altitude taken from non government individuals are fake?

You have to answer yes or you have to change everything you have said previously.

I guess during a lunar eclipse I'm seeing the shadow of a different object on the moon. What am I seeing?


Maybe you would benefit from watching this video I linked addone also.
"Jumping From Space! - Red Bull Space Dive - BBC"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9oKEJ1pXPw

Watch from 16seconds to 20seconds.
This is what a fisheye lens ACTUALLY does to the horizon when filmed from high altitude aka space.
Don't be fooled by the camerawork they attempt to use to show you a sphere. You aren't a stupid guy I've talked to you on JSP a few times you seem logical enough grasp what's going on in this video here surely.

This post was edited by Insein on May 9 2026 06:29am
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May 9 2026 06:51am
So according to you 100% of scientific studies on the Earth are fake, 100% of government footage and photos are fake, 100% of footage and photos from high enough altitude taken from non government individuals are fake?

You have to answer yes or you have to change everything you have said previously.

I guess during a lunar eclipse I'm seeing the shadow of a different object on the moon. What am I seeing?


I replied with another quote you can read too but I'll follow up about the lunar eclipse thing for you here too.

As far as the lunar eclipse sometimes in the past that has occurred when the sun and moon are both visible in the sky at the same time first. It's called a Selenehelion.
I'm sure you have seen this on certain days ie: the daytime moon.
For the heliocentric model to exist as reality the moon and sun must be on opposite sides of the planet. It's not your reality.

The moon could be transparent, there could be a 3rd celestial body, it could be to do with refraction from the upper/lower atmosphere. I'm not 100% certain without being able to go to the source to confirm. But an eclipse definitely has got nothing to do with the heliocentric model.
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May 9 2026 07:33am


there is a lot of ancient historical text about the biblical narrative. if you gathered all of it up and copied it into a book you would need a wheelbarrow to haul it around. the hand held versions of the bible are selected books from the many books. (committees are formed to decide what is selected)
since i said "66 books" its obvious i would be talking about a 66 book version of the bible

"Jumping From Space! - Red Bull Space Dive - BBC"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9oKEJ1pXPw

Watch this video from 16seconds to 20seconds.
This is what a fisheye lens ACTUALLY does to the horizon when filmed from high altitude aka space.
Explain to me what you see at 58seconds to 1:04.? What is curved becomes convex do you see now?




This post was edited by TiStuff on May 9 2026 07:38am
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May 9 2026 09:10am
Maybe you would benefit from watching this video I linked addone also.
"Jumping From Space! - Red Bull Space Dive - BBC"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9oKEJ1pXPw

Watch from 16seconds to 20seconds.
This is what a fisheye lens ACTUALLY does to the horizon when filmed from high altitude aka space.
Don't be fooled by the camerawork they attempt to use to show you a sphere. You aren't a stupid guy I've talked to you on JSP a few times you seem logical enough grasp what's going on in this video here surely.


When a fisheye lens captures a horizon, the visual result depends entirely on the horizon's position relative to the center of the frame due to barrel distortion. This type of lens intentionally bends light to achieve an ultra-wide, hemispherical field of view, causing straight lines to curve away from the center.

Inversion Test: A fisheye lens will only curve a line away from the center. If a horizon is in the bottom half of the frame (where the lens should create a "smile" curve) but it still shows a downward "frown" curve, that curvature is likely real rather than lens-induced.Straightening Effect: Conversely, a fisheye lens can be used to make a naturally curved horizon (like one seen from a high-altitude balloon) appear perfectly flat if positioned correctly near the edge of the frame.

Knowing how a fish eye lens work we want to use a rectilinear lens.
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May 9 2026 09:53am
When a fisheye lens captures a horizon, the visual result depends entirely on the horizon's position relative to the center of the frame due to barrel distortion. This type of lens intentionally bends light to achieve an ultra-wide, hemispherical field of view, causing straight lines to curve away from the center.

Inversion Test: A fisheye lens will only curve a line away from the center. If a horizon is in the bottom half of the frame (where the lens should create a "smile" curve) but it still shows a downward "frown" curve, that curvature is likely real rather than lens-induced.Straightening Effect: Conversely, a fisheye lens can be used to make a naturally curved horizon (like one seen from a high-altitude balloon) appear perfectly flat if positioned correctly near the edge of the frame.

Knowing how a fish eye lens work we want to use a rectilinear lens.


Correct. So you understand the deception.
The deception is there for national security. So it's not a bad thing.
It's a white lie: meaning good intentions are behind it also.
So to sum everything up we actually are on a spinning ball regardless of all the logical statements I made previously. Get my drift? ;)
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May 9 2026 10:19am
Correct. So you understand the deception.
The deception is there for national security. So it's not a bad thing.
It's a white lie: meaning good intentions are behind it also.
So to sum everything up we actually are on a spinning ball regardless of all the logical statements I made previously. Get my drift? ;)


We are not free from deception and lies. It is important that we stay focused on truth and let that truth lead our life.

Great things come from doing so in the evil world that we live in.
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May 9 2026 06:15pm
So there is your answer about hearsay being used as historical evidence
Instead of taking your brother at his word you assumed that he isn't literally flying but figuratively like Rose on the Titanic.
Likewise you need to assume jesus (if he existed) didn't resurrect literally but metaphorically or allegorically and there was nothing magical or godlike about him. Just an ordinary man who got lost in translation.

That is the point of this entire thread. To bring awareness and not take things at face value or believe hearsay. But to examine your beliefs honestly and set aside unproven claims until they can be demonstrated.


So now we're asking who Jesus is exactly? We have John the Baptist's Testimony for that.

John 1:19:34 ESV.

The Testimony of John the Baptist

19 And this is the testimony of John, when the Jews sent priests and Levites from Jerusalem to ask him, “Who are you?” 20 He confessed, and did not deny, but confessed, “I am not the Christ.” 21 And they asked him, “What then? Are you Elijah?” He said, “I am not.” “Are you the Prophet?” And he answered, “No.” 22 So they said to him, “Who are you? We need to give an answer to those who sent us. What do you say about yourself?” 23 He said, “I am the voice of one crying out in the wilderness, ‘Make straight the way of the Lord,’ as the prophet Isaiah said.”

24 (Now they had been sent from the Pharisees.) 25 They asked him, “Then why are you baptizing, if you are neither the Christ, nor Elijah, nor the Prophet?” 26 John answered them, “I baptize with water, but among you stands one you do not know, 27 even he who comes after me, the strap of whose sandal I am not worthy to untie.” 28 These things took place in Bethany across the Jordan, where John was baptizing.

Behold, the Lamb of God
29 The next day he saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, “Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world! 30 This is he of whom I said, ‘After me comes a man who ranks before me, because he was before me.’ 31 I myself did not know him, but for this purpose I came baptizing with water, that he might be revealed to Israel.” 32 And John bore witness: “I saw the Spirit descend from heaven like a dove, and it remained on him. 33 I myself did not know him, but he who sent me to baptize with water said to me, ‘He on whom you see the Spirit descend and remain, this is he who baptizes with the Holy Spirit.’ 34 And I have seen and have borne witness that this is the Son of God.”

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Oh and before you claim Bible proving Bible, let's delve into what you are really asking: Can I trust the New Testament?

There are several questions in this question:

Q: Were the documents written by eyewitnesses?
A: Some were, some weren't.

Q: Were they in circulation in the lifetime of eyewitnesses?
A: Yes.

Q: Do we have independent records of Jesus?
A: Yes. Matthew, Mark and Luke are independent from John.

Q: Have they been transmitted accurately?
A: Yes.

Q: Can we ever get accurate information from the past?
A: Yes.

Q: Are there non-Christian historians who tell us about Jesus?
A: Yes.

For further reading:
"Is the New Testament History" Paul Barnett (Hodder & Stoughton)

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May 11 2026 04:48pm
Well I suspect you must be trolling. Absolutely something can spin in a single direction that's just angular momentum. In this case a product of gravity acting as a centripetal force, nor would Newtons law require some opposite rotation. You are also using Magnus effect when it has no applicability. The Earth is in orbit, and its motion is determined as I said in the first part of this silly posting, gravity and inertia.

You go on to say oh the orbit path defies physics, what are you talking about, its so perfectly in-line with physics that we can successfully predict seasons, we can toss satellites and know exactly what their trajectory will be, we can predict and make tide charts, we know when an eclipse will happen or when a certain planet will be easily visible . You think being able to do all this is random good guessing or the REAL physics are being hidden from the public? Get out of here.

Stars spring in "opposite", brother you are on the opposite side of a spinning globe, I hope that ones pretty self explanatory. If not someone needs to go for a walk and start learning perspective.

I honestly cant be bothered with the rest. This has to be a troll I don't know if I have seen a single comment so full of totally incorrect and wrongly applied principals that it has to be a ragebait compiliation of stupid shit put together.

But I will take the L For even clicking this thread and engaging.


Reading this thread as a modern mathematical logician is 'amusing'.

I also happen to study theoretical physics like categorical QM, relativity etc. rigorously (very extensive math background needed so I dont quite like it when random sophists talk about these and interpret it in their layman terms) and Epistemology (Aquinas, Hume, Kant, Hegel, all the big names)

so im definitely in position to impart some knowledge to these peeps. However Id rather do chaos runs than participate in brainrot

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May 11 2026 05:19pm
Reading this thread as a modern mathematical logician is 'amusing'.

I also happen to study theoretical physics like categorical QM, relativity etc. rigorously (very extensive math background needed so I dont quite like it when random sophists talk about these and interpret it in their layman terms) and Epistemology (Aquinas, Hume, Kant, Hegel, all the big names)

so im definitely in position to impart some knowledge to these peeps. However Id rather do chaos runs than participate in brainrot


Chaos runs is as brainrot as it gets. :thumbsup:
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May 11 2026 06:23pm
Chaos runs is as brainrot as it gets. :thumbsup:


Real atheists farm trav

If christianity real why ars al diabolos too stronk

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