Quote (18nomaUSEast @ May 9 2026 01:18pm)

According to my research, virginity in the era of Christ required male-female sex (which was the same loophole the ancient Greeks used for all their gay sex). This provides scientific explanation for Mary's virgin birth - she was stirred up by a trans person.

Quote (addone @ 8 May 2026 21:29)

Thats a wild take but ok.
From my understanding Greeks weren't constrained by religious or civil laws that forbade them from engaging in homosexuality so they had no need in "loopholes". In fact it was part of their education and cultural norms to sleep with other men, at least at the higher echelons of society.

Quote (D_urRRR @ May 9 2026 08:37am)

So nobody knows the shape of our Earth?

Quote (Insein @ May 9 2026 05:53pm)

Depends how you classify 'shape'.
What shape is a mountain? It's hard to articulate what shape that actually is without witnessing the mountain I'm actually talking about.
I'd say the best word for the planet would be amorphous. Meaning it lacks clear structure or defined form. It's always changing too.

If you want to know how ridiculous it is that people think we have a curved surface or a flat surface all you have to do is put a mountain on it. And it's not curved nor flat. And the ocean surface? Well all you have to do is go below that and find a seabed. Both models act as if there's nothing above or below sea level when there is.

There are also different realms to our existence. Such as our dreamstate and what we experience there too.

That's why initially I stated to you that the planet is much more complex than just a straight line or a circle.

Quote (Insein @ May 8 2026 12:57am)

I'm not sure what my comments have to do with flat earth? That is an another belief system all together. I'm just pointing out that you have a belief system yourself when you talk about the planet too.

And yes I swear upon Almighty God.
In order for my ancestors to migrate to Australia after World War II they had to take an Oath of Allegiance to Almighty God and to the head of the Monarch. This Oath is passed down to heirs, successors and inheritors. Which includes me.
Nowdays in Australia new migrants can take an affirmation rather than an oath, but that wasn't an option for my ancestors.
So I don't have a choice in this matter. I uphold Christian values and traditions as a result. I've also been Baptised, received the Holy Sacrament of Confirmation, received the Blessed Eucharist and I'm Married. These are public declarations of faith.
I understand the concept of God and what it represents for Christians.
If it wasn't for this I wouldn't be alive today.

Quote (Insein @ May 8 2026 03:09pm)

There is no model that humans make that accurately depicts our reality. All of them have flaws.
Think of the planet models like anatomical models of the body that we make in science too. They are tools we use for certain things but they aren't real.

Quote (CPK001 @ May 8 2026 05:42pm)

Anyone can make an outrageous claim but they better be prepared to back it up. We would first need to define the word "fly". They may have a different definition as to what your first thought might be.

Remember Toy Story when Buzz "Flew" around the room with his eyes closed? Or remember what Rose said with her arms outstretched on the Bow of the Titanic? Have you heard of a game called "World of Warplanes"?

God has given us 2 ears and 1 mouth for a reason. Your initial thought may not be aligned with theirs, which is why you let them speak to get on the same terms and definitions.

Remember when Groundskeeper Willy said that he "ate" Santa's Little Helper? He was in fact saying "hate" but his Scottish accent changed that one word to something else entirely.

Quote (Insein @ May 8 2026 10:53pm)

Depends how you classify 'shape'.
What shape is a mountain? It's hard to articulate what shape that actually is without witnessing the mountain I'm actually talking about.
I'd say the best word for the planet would be amorphous. Meaning it lacks clear structure or defined form. It's always changing too.

If you want to know how ridiculous it is that people think we have a curved surface or a flat surface all you have to do is put a mountain on it. And it's not curved nor flat. And the ocean surface? Well all you have to do is go below that and find a seabed. Both models act as if there's nothing above or below sea level when there is.

There are also different realms to our existence. Such as our dreamstate and what we experience there too.

That's why initially I stated to you that the planet is much more complex than just a straight line or a circle.

Quote (addone @ May 9 2026 01:01am)

Have you tried looking at the earth from space not from your basement? Its a much different view, you cannot see a forrest through the trees.

No one denies earth has mountains and irregular shape up close but when you look from afar it is a sphere.



So you are a christian because you have been groomed to be one and your grand parents were forced under threat of citizenship.
Have you considered opting out of this fake belief? You can still uphold "christian" values without the need to believe in the fairytale about magic garden, talking snakes and raising people from the dead stories. There is nothing stopping you from being a decent human being who gives to society, loves his family and raises his kids. Why pollute your mind with bronze age mythologies?

Quote (spiltpuddin @ May 8 2026 10:45am)

I think that people have been brainwashed into thinking of the Bible was formed with God's hand and his intervention.

Its simply a compilation of various ancient literature.
From different times
From different languages.
Written by men.
Translated by men
Compiled by men.

Do I think that the stories should automatically be disregarded
Because of this?
No, absolutely not.

I think a better way to look at the Bible is with the mind set of it being historical text.
Not to be disrespected because of irrational hate for religion.
But also not to be believed without question because of blind faith.

I also think that all the other ancient literature that never found its way into the Bible should also be reviewed and respected the same.
Like extra stories in dead sea scrolls, sumerian tablets, and all other ancient text that was conveniently left out of the Bible by the folks that compiled it.


As graham Hancock eloquently said:
"We are a race with amnesia"
Because all it takes is one major catastrophe for us to all reset and revert back to primal intelligence and understanding.

This is why we marvel at the pyramids, the megalithic stones at baalbek and other such ancient works that we still to this day cannot with certain say how it was created due to the magnitude and precision required.

Now the findings from ground penetraiting technology we see there are these giant spiral structures going deep under ground under the pyramids which may be some form of lost technology.
Or
Even the mega labyrinth in Egypt that was in ancient text that described and even more impressive than all the pyramids has been found now with this technology we have now that can look into the earth.



My point is:
We know very little about our own past.
And unless you were there when it happened you cannot say with certainty that's what happened and how it happened.
But
We do need to cherish what little information we do have.
And read it with an open mind.
And from a modern understanding that there may have been Devine intervention at periods of time throughout our long forgotten history from species or beings that may be interdimensional or interstellar.
Because you have stories like the nephilim...
Which were giants born from "fallen angles" that mated with human women...
Obviously look at this with much skepticism.
But if this really did happen in history.
Common sense will tell you that it was physical beings that came down... not mythical dark angel demons...
Because you need sperm to make baby.
And that means you need balls and a cock.
Which means physical beings were visiting this planet from somewhere else similar enough in nature to conceive.
So... yeah..
Who knows
Maybe its all bull shit.
Who knows I wasnt there.
But neither was anyone else.
So no one can prove it really happened.

Everything biblical or historical should always be read with extreme skepticism, but also with an open mind.

Take all the religious dogma away and what are you left with?
Very very old Stories that may be bullshit, but also may not be complete bullshit and instead hold much forgotten truths about our history on this planet.

At the very least.
The Bible helps pass on very important morals and ethics.
Which helps society more than many who casually disregard it realize.

Thats my honest take.
Ive seen and been on both sides of the fence.
Now I exist in the middle in the search for truth and understanding not dogma.

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Because you need sperm to make baby.

Quote (TiStuff @ May 9 2026 09:28pm)

the bible is a collection of 66 books
written over a period of approximately 1400-1500 years
in 3 different languages across 3 different continents
by over 40 different authors from every walk of life (from a kings throne to a prison cell)
most who never knew each other and many of them die a horrible death rather then deny their faith.
with no historical errors or contradictions
coming together in one singe unified harmonious message
THE CREATION, FALL AND REDEMPTION
GODS UNIVERSAL LOVE FOR ALL HUMANITY
a common message of salvation is available to all who repent their sins and commit to following God with all their heart, soul, strength and mind.
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unlikely the "intrusion" would be biologically compatible. such a intrusion would be from superior lifeforms (manipulate the biology not have sex with it)
this is perhaps the best stuff i have ever found on the topic of nephilim. sorry its a crazy 2 hour vid
Nephilim: TRUE STORY of Satan, Fallen Angels, Giants, Aliens, Hybrids, Elongated Skulls & Nephilim
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zz8_MxcnzY

Quote (Insein @ May 9 2026 01:53am)

Depends how you classify 'shape'.
What shape is a mountain? It's hard to articulate what shape that actually is without witnessing the mountain I'm actually talking about.
I'd say the best word for the planet would be amorphous. Meaning it lacks clear structure or defined form. It's always changing too.

If you want to know how ridiculous it is that people think we have a curved surface or a flat surface all you have to do is put a mountain on it. And it's not curved nor flat. And the ocean surface? Well all you have to do is go below that and find a seabed. Both models act as if there's nothing above or below sea level when there is.

There are also different realms to our existence. Such as our dreamstate and what we experience there too.

That's why initially I stated to you that the planet is much more complex than just a straight line or a circle.

Quote (addone @ May 9 2026 05:01pm)

Have you tried looking at the earth from space not from your basement? Its a much different view, you cannot see a forrest through the trees.

No one denies earth has mountains and irregular shape up close but when you look from afar it is a sphere.