Well I suspect you must be trolling. Absolutely something can spin in a single direction that's just angular momentum. In this case a product of gravity acting as a centripetal force, nor would Newtons law require some opposite rotation. You are also using Magnus effect when it has no applicability. The Earth is in orbit, and its motion is determined as I said in the first part of this silly posting, gravity and inertia.

You go on to say oh the orbit path defies physics, what are you talking about, its so perfectly in-line with physics that we can successfully predict seasons, we can toss satellites and know exactly what their trajectory will be, we can predict and make tide charts, we know when an eclipse will happen or when a certain planet will be easily visible . You think being able to do all this is random good guessing or the REAL physics are being hidden from the public? Get out of here.

Stars spring in "opposite", brother you are on the opposite side of a spinning globe, I hope that ones pretty self explanatory. If not someone needs to go for a walk and start learning perspective.

I honestly cant be bothered with the rest. This has to be a troll I don't know if I have seen a single comment so full of totally incorrect and wrongly applied principals that it has to be a ragebait compiliation of stupid shit put together.

But I will take the L For even clicking this thread and engaging.

I think that people have been brainwashed into thinking of the Bible was formed with God's hand and his intervention.

Its simply a compilation of various ancient literature.
From different times
From different languages.
Written by men.
Translated by men
Compiled by men.

Do I think that the stories should automatically be disregarded
Because of this?
No, absolutely not.

I think a better way to look at the Bible is with the mind set of it being historical text.
Not to be disrespected because of irrational hate for religion.
But also not to be believed without question because of blind faith.

I also think that all the other ancient literature that never found its way into the Bible should also be reviewed and respected the same.
Like extra stories in dead sea scrolls, sumerian tablets, and all other ancient text that was conveniently left out of the Bible by the folks that compiled it.


As graham Hancock eloquently said:
"We are a race with amnesia"
Because all it takes is one major catastrophe for us to all reset and revert back to primal intelligence and understanding.

This is why we marvel at the pyramids, the megalithic stones at baalbek and other such ancient works that we still to this day cannot with certain say how it was created due to the magnitude and precision required.

Now the findings from ground penetraiting technology we see there are these giant spiral structures going deep under ground under the pyramids which may be some form of lost technology.
Or
Even the mega labyrinth in Egypt that was in ancient text that described and even more impressive than all the pyramids has been found now with this technology we have now that can look into the earth.



My point is:
We know very little about our own past.
And unless you were there when it happened you cannot say with certainty that's what happened and how it happened.
But
We do need to cherish what little information we do have.
And read it with an open mind.
And from a modern understanding that there may have been Devine intervention at periods of time throughout our long forgotten history from species or beings that may be interdimensional or interstellar.
Because you have stories like the nephilim...
Which were giants born from "fallen angles" that mated with human women...
Obviously look at this with much skepticism.
But if this really did happen in history.
Common sense will tell you that it was physical beings that came down... not mythical dark angel demons...
Because you need sperm to make baby.
And that means you need balls and a cock.
Which means physical beings were visiting this planet from somewhere else similar enough in nature to conceive.
So... yeah..
Who knows
Maybe its all bull shit.
Who knows I wasnt there.
But neither was anyone else.
So no one can prove it really happened.

Everything biblical or historical should always be read with extreme skepticism, but also with an open mind.

Take all the religious dogma away and what are you left with?
Very very old Stories that may be bullshit, but also may not be complete bullshit and instead hold much forgotten truths about our history on this planet.

At the very least.
The Bible helps pass on very important morals and ethics.
Which helps society more than many who casually disregard it realize.

Thats my honest take.
Ive seen and been on both sides of the fence.
Now I exist in the middle in the search for truth and understanding not dogma.

This post was edited by spiltpuddin on May 8 2026 11:57am

Being able to use observations to predict certain astrological things has nothing to do with a globe. To do angular calculations like that you need to work off a plain not a curved surface. Otherwise you won't have an X axis like I mentioned before. You can't actually use the globe model for those predictions you mention.

Maybe you aren't getting what I'm talking about with the star rotation. Think of it like the viewpoint you would have if you were in the core of the sphere looking outwards. Not the viewpoint looking downwards at the globe. The stars themselves need to be rotating both directions to fit the globe model that's spinning one way. Ie: you would need two separate set of constellations one rotating one way and one rotating the other.

If you have used a celestial desk globe model you need a mirror to view them correctly. That is why some models put text in reverse. For this very reason.
You can't incorporate the stars into a spinning globe without being able to incorporate both directions of spin. Either by spinning the globe either or direction or spinning the star constellations either or direction. Or using a mirror.
Using one specific direction won't work for reality.
This is where Newtons Law comes into play. And the Magnus effect. These concepts actually apply when you use the model. An equal opposing force is required at all times or the model won't work.

Speaking about perspective do you realize how many land objects are visible where a curve should conceal them too?
The Chicago skyline from Lake Michigan.
Mount Mckinley in Alaska.
Port Said Lighthouse in Egypt.
The Coorong in South Australia.

The curvature formula dictates a drop of 8in per mile squared. These places should be concealed not visible if that was the case.

The globe model is not your reality...

For the most part I agree. I wouldn't use it as a historical document however, or at least with a very large grain of salt.

You can take out some of the common sense morals or ethics from the bible without putting too much weight on its contents. Again being careful you don't take the twisted and abhorrent ones that don't apply to our current times such as
Psalm 137:9
Judges 19:22-29
Exodus 21:20-21
Deuteronomy 21:18-21

Etc etc

For the most part it is to be avoided in case you step into minefield of bullshit while trying to find a small nugget of valuable wisdom.
Most christians who attempt to find those nuggets end filling their heads with bronze age trash. I think the church recognizes this on some level and instructs it's clergy to cherrypick the parts that sound good and what people want to hear.

So if the Globe model isn't our reality and the flat model isn't our reality, then what is our model?

There is no model that humans make that accurately depicts our reality. All of them have flaws.
Think of the planet models like anatomical models of the body that we make in science too. They are tools we use for certain things but they aren't real.

So nobody knows the shape of our Earth?

Anyone can make an outrageous claim but they better be prepared to back it up. We would first need to define the word "fly". They may have a different definition as to what your first thought might be.

Remember Toy Story when Buzz "Flew" around the room with his eyes closed? Or remember what Rose said with her arms outstretched on the Bow of the Titanic? Have you heard of a game called "World of Warplanes"?

God has given us 2 ears and 1 mouth for a reason. Your initial thought may not be aligned with theirs, which is why you let them speak to get on the same terms and definitions.

Remember when Groundskeeper Willy said that he "ate" Santa's Little Helper? He was in fact saying "hate" but his Scottish accent changed that one word to something else entirely.

So there is your answer about hearsay being used as historical evidence
Instead of taking your brother at his word you assumed that he isn't literally flying but figuratively like Rose on the Titanic.
Likewise you need to assume jesus (if he existed) didn't resurrect literally but metaphorically or allegorically and there was nothing magical or godlike about him. Just an ordinary man who got lost in translation.

That is the point of this entire thread. To bring awareness and not take things at face value or believe hearsay. But to examine your beliefs honestly and set aside unproven claims until they can be demonstrated.

According to my research, virginity in the era of Christ required male-female sex (which was the same loophole the ancient Greeks used for all their gay sex). This provides scientific explanation for Mary's virgin birth - she was stirred up by a trans person.