Christian minister gets cooked, dodges every question and tries to pivot every time he is pressed to answer a question.

what was his best argument?

He tried many different arguments and every single one got dismantled. He got logicd into oblivion.

The main thing he was bringing up the present and the past trying to somehow pin it to god but couldn't even understand what he was talking about. Ian explained how contradictions and logic works but it went over christian minister's head
It is relatively easy argument maybe even you can grasp it

If you like I can post more nuanced discussions where scholars debate in depth contradictions that expose the bible as a badly written illogical story.

This post was edited by addone on May 8 2026 12:08am

I will let you know when my Brother and Mother do tell me those things. I promise you even if I hear it while I am in the shower I will immediately run to the PC, open this thread and report to you my findings.

if you cant describe the best moment maybe you could into the transcript, copy n paste it

ya sure. at this point changing anything probably be an improvement?

Thats not what I asked. I asked if they told you those things would you believe them not when you hear them. Meaning right now not in some hypothetical future date.



I just gave you a tl;dw summary of his main argument are you pretending to not hear?

Start video it gives you preview first minute. You can skip to like 2.10 and thats the beginning of the main argument then it expands from there. Its an easy to follow debate maybe spend 5 mins and see for yourself.

This post was edited by addone on May 8 2026 01:47am

I don't have the time to fill my mind with infinite what if scenarios. I could give some kind of answer but if it were to happen for real I'd most likely respond differently than what I say here.

Its literally a yes or no question.

Why are you intentionally trying to be rude and not engage with the question honestly. Is it perhaps you found out that your entire argument is flawed and now trying to walk it back?

Nope.

The globe model doesn't work with it spinning one specific direction.
There is no such thing in reality as a pivot of rotation that can only be one direction.
This also defies Newtons 3rd Law: For every action there is an equal opposing reaction.
The spin and tilt orbit path defies the laws of physics like the Magnus effect too. Like putting topspin on a tennis ball by spinning it one direction only. The orbits can't possible work in the heliocentric model because of this.

The stars rotate clockwise in one hemisphere and anticlockwise in the other. You should know this.
If you spin the globe a specific direction this doesn't match the observations.
The globe model needs to incorporate two directions of spin in order for it to be plausible. Not one. It needs to incorporate the duality that exists in everything in our reality in order to be our reality.

This post was edited by Insein on May 8 2026 03:20am

Your YT creator stated the universe has always existed and is not a personal being. So why are you using his arguments as your own? You do not believe in a state of eternal.

The "minister" on the subject of time stated God is outside of time. Past, present, future, a state of eternal. He was not incorrect here. The YT creator asked if God created time. Our perception of time is different than God's. To us, we had a beginning.

"In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth."

"And God said, 'Let there be lights in the expanse of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark seasons, and days and years.'"

Your YT creator made the comment, "If God created time then God changes and is in time" and that this is apparently a contradiction. God creating the concept of time (in our case) does not put him within our concept of time. That doesn't make any sense.

So let's stick to that point for now since you fully agree with this YT creator.



This post was edited by D_urRRR on May 8 2026 06:51am