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May 7 2026 10:10am
Echo strike warlock is doing great, but don't think I want to stick with it after the huge nerfs to it.

Is fire the move over magic for clearing p8? No enigma still and haven't found a single sunder charm even with mosaic sin, but I know the updates will fix the drop rate.

So thinking I go fire and farm for a sunder and fire gem from the ancients

Thoughts?
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May 7 2026 10:11am
Take a break. Ladder reset 22 May confirmed.
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May 7 2026 10:12am
Take a break. Ladder reset 22 May confirmed.


I mean after the reset and the nerf. I'm playing offline
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May 7 2026 03:16pm
I mean after the reset and the nerf. I'm playing offline


just don’t update your game :bonk: ezpz

This post was edited by dubstepmammoth on May 7 2026 03:17pm
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May 7 2026 03:29pm
Ya do it and keep us posted
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May 7 2026 03:30pm
even with mosaic sin
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Thoughts?


play mosaic
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May 7 2026 05:29pm
fire is stronger than magic but both are a huge step down from what ES is now

edit: I play magic anyway because fire playstyle is annoying imo... apocalypse looks awesome but is clunky AF and I end up spamming fire wave mostly

This post was edited by Morbid-EW on May 7 2026 05:30pm
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May 7 2026 05:49pm
Sc doesn’t matter. Nerf to fire is the least imo..

The book requirement sucks for HC, but a good Diablo book will noticeably increase your Apoc damage, which is untouched.

The flame wave nerf is minimal. It’s application will remain unchanged minus the 15% overall nerf to the skill.

Losing free conviction hurts to the tune of a loss 16-17 minus enemy fire res, but they still are good tanks, although not immortal.

The demon hard points requirement nerf still works pretty well with the 3-skill synergy fire tree. Can get a tank and a consume. The other two build options will be limited to a single consume, imo.

You’ll struggle with fire though, without proper gear and a sunder.
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