Has it happened at least a handful of times over the course of 4+ years of war? Sure. Does it happen all the damn time? Hell no, because hiding behind civilians is not part of the core strategy of Ukraine's military. It's quite the opposite: Russia's constant attacks on residential buildings and civilian infrastructure leave no doubt about them trying to break the will of the Ukrainian people.



Your moral nihilism is a non sequitur. The fact that all sides use propaganda and commit warcrimes in armed conflict does not automatically imply that all sides are equally bad or engage in propaganda/warcrimes at the same frequency or magnitude. Believing that there can be morally superior sides in particular conflicts does not automatically imply that I'm a victim of "my side's" propaganda.

And just for the record: there are plenty of wars in which I considered the West, or the side the West was backing, to be in the morally inferior position: Syria, Libya, Iraq, or when Azerbaijan recently steamrolled Armenia in Nagorno-Karabakh with tacit NATO backing. I just happen to prefer the Western/Israeli side in the two most salient wars of today (Gaza/Ukraine).

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Apr 27 2026 02:42pm

The 6% includes 150,000 that flee.




Where is the intent?

Israeli leadership has called for total annihalation of gaza and called all palestinians animals and netanyahu has called for Amalek against the population meaning there's no uninvolved citizens. That's for me intent enough.

But we can add to intent as it's definitely intentional when majority of the hospitals, universities, schools and in general all infrastructure has been completely destroyed.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1616491/gaza-war-infrastructure-damage-destruction/?srsltid=AfmBOooMwMIsvqE-YHeLLH5FKnq7RU7UhZdqi3xReI9oLHSq_ehY-6W2

81% of all structures destroyed.
77% roads
93% water insecurity
87% croplands destroyed
93% schools destroyed
37% primary healt care centers are partially functional

Amazing if 81% of buildings destroyed how did 97% population survived?

So you need to make your argument clear how this doesn't mean intent.
Also +20,000 innocent kids are fucking dead and counting so you better make one hell of an argument here..

How did 97% survived?

Repeating yourself doesn't make your argument clearer?
If your argument is that israel warned them, and therefor it was not intent, why did they bomb the buildings and hospitals to begin with?
If your argument is that israel could just kill them all if they wanted to, then go see a psychiatrist.
And why, since the ceasefire, has israel continued to bomb gaza incl designated safe zones?
That's "intent to in part destroy".
Out of morbid curiousity what percentage of the palestinian population should die before you would consider it genocide?

Frenchy is way more consistent than you.

i find it pretty funny that israel maintains any sense of moral high ground after the story broke about the "where's daddy" AI driven targeting system that purposely waited until they got back with their families to strike them, even in refugee camps, and almost exclusively low level suspected Hamas fighters. not even generals. they literally made a system to track henchmen and kill their families with them. then used it.

lol

Israel war has printed more civilian deaths in less than a year vs the Russian war has in over 4 years. Last i checked the number was literally ~5x in magnitude. I don't know how you can objectively say the latter is clearly targetting civilians. If that was the case why wouldn't they be dropping Fabs in the middle of Kiev residential high rises for max pain?

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Apr 28 2026 08:02am