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So I have to bring up the point again of, what does a nova sorc do when you're facing P8 tz96 immune heralds with a gorillion HP and damage who will clobber you whether you're ES or vita or whatever, where your merc will die instantly and you'll die in a few seconds if they catch up to you
Especially if they can be ranged or extra fast.

Lightning has a pretty hard time with its slow animation but it can at least kite by teleporting to opposite sides and spamming back and forth like FB can, but a FB sorc has hydras and meteors which are easy enough, and lightning/fb both trivialize it if you can trap monsters on moats
I captured some footage on my first attempt to show how even a much higher DPS higher utility fire sorc has serious problems with heralds, something that the better builds like warlock don't. Granted the 2x phoenix build loses +50/-2 fire but its nearly max dps.



When we're talking about needing to land ~200 nova casts to kill heralds, more than a full minute of casting, it seems prohibitive to the point of being unplayable.
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So I have to bring up the point again of, what does a nova sorc do when you're facing P8 tz96 immune heralds with a gorillion HP and damage who will clobber you whether you're ES or vita or whatever, where your merc will die instantly and you'll die in a few seconds if they catch up to you
Especially if they can be ranged or extra fast.

Lightning has a pretty hard time with its slow animation but it can at least kite by teleporting to opposite sides and spamming back and forth like FB can, but a FB sorc has hydras and meteors which are easy enough, and lightning/fb both trivialize it if you can trap monsters on moats
I captured some footage on my first attempt to show how even a much higher DPS higher utility fire sorc has serious problems with heralds, something that the better builds like warlock don't. Granted the 2x phoenix build loses +50/-2 fire but its nearly max dps.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4JGr8cLvMk

When we're talking about needing to land ~200 nova casts to kill heralds, more than a full minute of casting, it seems prohibitive to the point of being unplayable.


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So I have to bring up the point again of, what does a nova sorc do when you're facing P8 tz96 immune heralds with a gorillion HP and damage who will clobber you whether you're ES or vita or whatever, where your merc will die instantly and you'll die in a few seconds if they catch up to you
Especially if they can be ranged or extra fast.

Lightning has a pretty hard time with its slow animation but it can at least kite by teleporting to opposite sides and spamming back and forth like FB can, but a FB sorc has hydras and meteors which are easy enough, and lightning/fb both trivialize it if you can trap monsters on moats
I captured some footage on my first attempt to show how even a much higher DPS higher utility fire sorc has serious problems with heralds, something that the better builds like warlock don't. Granted the 2x phoenix build loses +50/-2 fire but its nearly max dps.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4JGr8cLvMk

When we're talking about needing to land ~200 nova casts to kill heralds, more than a full minute of casting, it seems prohibitive to the point of being unplayable.


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Apr 25 2026 04:32pm
where the f is your cursor


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but ye point with this post is, wtf does a nova sorc do. Immune heralds with amp + auras and 3.5x base damage and other bullshit can instagib you if you let them connect and you simply cannot get that close to either ranged OR extra fast melee units
I had a hard enough time trying to land any static fields in that clip

Act 3 and 4 you have an easy time just trapping units over rivers, act 1 and 5 its mostly open ground, but act 2 you're in all kinds of small rooms corridors getting slammed by hordes of units
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Apr 25 2026 04:47pm
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https://i.imgur.com/BtbryL4.jpeg

but ye point with this post is, wtf does a nova sorc do. Immune heralds with amp + auras and 3.5x base damage and other bullshit can instagib you if you let them connect and you simply cannot get that close to either ranged OR extra fast melee units
I had a hard enough time trying to land any static fields in that clip

Act 3 and 4 you have an easy time just trapping units over rivers, act 1 and 5 its mostly open ground, but act 2 you're in all kinds of small rooms corridors getting slammed by hordes of units


100%

My es nova Sorc has to town 5 times vs a p8tz herald because my merc dies in 1 shot so you gotta keep reviving him. Nova range is a bit too short to kite effectively.

This post was edited by losm on Apr 25 2026 04:47pm
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Apr 25 2026 04:56pm
Tz immunes changed in rotw, where the warlock stands as most predominant
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Apr 25 2026 05:12pm
why your spirit have block % on it lol
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Apr 25 2026 05:12pm
Tz immunes changed in rotw, where the warlock stands as most predominant


what tz immunes changed lol
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Apr 25 2026 06:09pm
why your spirit have block % on it lol


It's a hero-edited char on singleplayer, bug in the software. Shouldn't make much difference though.

So I have to bring up the point again of, what does a nova sorc do when you're facing P8 tz96 immune heralds with a gorillion HP and damage who will clobber you whether you're ES or vita or whatever, where your merc will die instantly and you'll die in a few seconds if they catch up to you
Especially if they can be ranged or extra fast.

Lightning has a pretty hard time with its slow animation but it can at least kite by teleporting to opposite sides and spamming back and forth like FB can, but a FB sorc has hydras and meteors which are easy enough, and lightning/fb both trivialize it if you can trap monsters on moats
I captured some footage on my first attempt to show how even a much higher DPS higher utility fire sorc has serious problems with heralds, something that the better builds like warlock don't. Granted the 2x phoenix build loses +50/-2 fire but its nearly max dps.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4JGr8cLvMk

When we're talking about needing to land ~200 nova casts to kill heralds, more than a full minute of casting, it seems prohibitive to the point of being unplayable.


That is a really nice herald kill. I have an idea for nova sorc to kill heralds. I'll try to post a video of it tonight. Idk if it will work. I'll report back either way.
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Apr 25 2026 06:38pm
what tz immunes changed lol


The areas give a rotating buff now to all monsters, was not in og tz pre-rotw
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