Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 24 Apr 2026 23:25)

^El1te

Correct me if there are some discrepancies.

Some People always like to take statistics and argue and twist the point and fact that " Hey it's going down, it is not fair to say that they are going out PRs as freebies ",
without visiting the fact that numbers needs to include a span of at least two to three decades to show the real data. :lol:

I mean in simple terms...

Person A : The numbers are down, here are the current statistic....don't be a racist and fearmonger.
Person B : goes back to data and check the difference between Indian population which will need to include India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka (Ceylon) from 1995 up till now.

For Example, not exact statistics...it used to be maybe 500K to 800K out of a 30 to 35 Million Population and now according to an AI overview, it is 2.8 Million or more out of 45 Million.

An A.I overview from Google.

Part 1. Notice the bold part.

As of late 2025/early 2026, the Indian-origin population in Canada is estimated to be over 2.8 million, making it the 4th largest Indian diaspora globally.
They are the largest non-European ethnic group in Canada, with a 2021 census count of 1.35 million growing rapidly due to India being the top source country for immigrants, temporary foreign workers, and international students

Part 2.

Bold part is very important as it will effect and affect how Canada will become down the road, whether culturally or religiously and how language will be introduced.
The age factor is very important because when they reach the age of 40 to 55, this will be a rough age where they will produce politicians who will shape the nation.

Key Demographic and Immigration Trends

Population Size: While the 2021 Census reported 1.35 million people of Indian origin, newer estimates indicate the number has grown to approximately 2.8 million.

Immigration Drivers: India is thetop source country for permanent residents (27% in 2022) and international students (45% in 2022).

Growth Rate: The Indian population in Canada has seen high growth, with a 260% increase in permanent residents from 2013 to 2022.

Age Profile: The population is relatively young, with a median age of 32.8 years, lower than the total Canadian population median of 41.2

Part 3.

Take note of Bold part.

Population Distribution and Background

Major Hubs: Significant populations live in Toronto, Vancouver, Calgary, Edmonton, Montreal, and Abbotsford.

Religious Composition: The community is diverse, with approximately 36% Sikhism, 32% Hinduism, 12% Christianity, and 11% Islam.

Languages: Major languages include Punjabi, Hindi, Urdu, Tamil, and Gujarati.

Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Apr 24 2026 08:31am)

Bold

1. Why ? run out of arguments and started to roll back time when you are in Middle School?

2. You are welcome to take all of them. They will be happy and you will be happy ( Win Win situation )

3. You are not entirely wrong.

4. You will be surprised.


Except for Japan (Historical reasons) :lol: The rest of China's neighbors dislike China as much as South and Central America dislike America. :rofl:

Your dislike for the Chinese (for good reasons) is similar to your father or grandfather's extreme dislike for the Japanese specifically in two timelines below.

1. World War 2
2. Japanese economical rise between 1975 up till the late 1980s and early 1990s.

Look I understand where you are coming from.

And ^crosspawz once made a rather interesting comment about people that might be similar to you. :rofl:

How there are people who would likely never leave further away from 100 KM from the hometown that they were born in.

Crosspawz you might want to elaborate on that, I kinda forget the full quote.

The internet is supposed to broaden the horizons of people all over the world.

I guess, not only did it not help people know more and understand more about the world, it did a reverse, doing the unthinkable and created a mass of people with Medieval or worst... ancient (Gaulish , Saxon Pagan mindset)..not the Greeks and Romans, they were advanced.
:rofl:

The only difference at this moment between you and the Indians is basically sanitation and infrastructure.
Judging the state of some very Left Wing states in USA, a.k.a San Francisco , Portland , Seattle, Philadelphia...just for an example. :lol:
You are not far from being Mumbai.. with more influx and unhinged migration from India...the friendly H-1B visas.

I can foresee the landscape changing to the one that you wished for..

Look, if you feel agitated, just grab some Coors light and have a drink while looking at the Dylan Mulvaney commercial and come back with your Epic Geo Strategic insights and give us some lecture.
:rolleyes:

Quote (Shadowoffury @ Apr 24 2026 10:29am)

1. You brought up the relative merits of a culture's cuisine, I just expanded on it. Don't throw stones if you live in a glass house.

2. Great

3. "Not entirely wrong" is disingenuous. I am entirely correct.

4. We could look at polls of South Korean views on China vs. the USA if you want. I encourage you to post some that support your position if you can find any, which seems unlikely. I'm on the road for another 3 hours or so after lunch but I'll find some to support my position after that.



As for your assumption that I'll never leave the town I was born in, I grew up in two small towns in different countries with several hundred kms between the two. I think I was under a year old the first time I lived in a place far more than 100km from the town I was born in. I will be in Canada in 3-4 hours and will be there for most of the next three-six months, possibly much more.

I was exaggerating to some extent for comedic effect in my posts to ^el1te. Southern Ontario, Vancouver, and every other metropolitan area in Canada is an absolute cesspool, that is true, but rural Canada is great.

Quote (Shadowoffury @ 25 Apr 2026 00:29)

1. You brought up the relative merits of a culture's cuisine, I just expanded on it. Don't throw stones if you live in a glass house.

2. Great

3. "Not entirely wrong" is disingenuous. I am entirely correct.

4. We could look at polls of South Korean views on China vs. the USA if you want. I encourage you to post some that support your position if you can find any, which seems unlikely. I'm on the road for another 3 hours or so after lunch but I'll find some to support my position after that.



As for your assumption that I'll never leave the town I was born in, I grew up in two small towns in different countries with several hundred kms between the two. I think I was under a year old the first time I lived in a place far more than 100km from the town I was born in. I will be in Canada in 3-4 hours and will be there for most of the next three-six months, possibly much more.

I was exaggerating to some extent for comedic effect in my posts to ^el1te. Southern Ontario, Vancouver, and every other metropolitan area in Canada is an absolute cesspool, that is true, but rural Canada is great.

Quote (SBD @ 24 Apr 2026 15:37)

Its a misleading title, its a % of permanent resident admissions each year, as in indians declined between 2023 to 2025 to 25% of people getting PR status, not a percentage of PR in Canada if I am understanding those data sources correctly.

As in 30% at its peak of people getting PR status each year in Canada for a bit was Indian, as in we were no longer the international melting pot but giving the lions share of PR to residents from a single country.


Now what this also does not factor is non-permanent residence, temporary labour force, etc. Permanent Resident in Canada is a classification. India also dominates the temporary labour force and admissions sky-rocketed in the past 10 years for that.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Apr 24 2026 01:38pm)

I see, thanks. Textbook example for the perils of mis- or unlabeled charts. ^_^

What's the picture on international students in Canada - I guess fucktons of Indians PLUS fucktons of Chinese?

Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Apr 24 2026 08:25am)

^El1te

Correct me if there are some discrepancies.

Some People always like to take statistics and argue and twist the point and fact that " Hey it's going down, it is not fair to say that they are going out PRs as freebies ",
without visiting the fact that numbers needs to include a span of at least two to three decades to show the real data. :lol:

I mean in simple terms...

Person A : The numbers are down, here are the current statistic....don't be a racist and fearmonger.
Person B : goes back to data and check the difference between Indian population which will need to include India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka (Ceylon) from 1995 up till now.

For Example, not exact statistics...it used to be maybe 500K to 800K out of a 30 to 35 Million Population and now according to an AI overview, it is 2.8 Million or more out of 45 Million.

An A.I overview from Google.

Part 1. Notice the bold part.

As of late 2025/early 2026, the Indian-origin population in Canada is estimated to be over 2.8 million, making it the 4th largest Indian diaspora globally.
They are the largest non-European ethnic group in Canada, with a 2021 census count of 1.35 million growing rapidly due to India being the top source country for immigrants, temporary foreign workers, and international students

Part 2.

Bold part is very important as it will effect and affect how Canada will become down the road, whether culturally or religiously and how language will be introduced.
The age factor is very important because when they reach the age of 40 to 55, this will be a rough age where they will produce politicians who will shape the nation.

Key Demographic and Immigration Trends

Population Size: While the 2021 Census reported 1.35 million people of Indian origin, newer estimates indicate the number has grown to approximately 2.8 million.

Immigration Drivers: India is thetop source country for permanent residents (27% in 2022) and international students (45% in 2022).

Growth Rate: The Indian population in Canada has seen high growth, with a 260% increase in permanent residents from 2013 to 2022.

Age Profile: The population is relatively young, with a median age of 32.8 years, lower than the total Canadian population median of 41.2

Part 3.

Take note of Bold part.

Population Distribution and Background

Major Hubs: Significant populations live in Toronto, Vancouver, Calgary, Edmonton, Montreal, and Abbotsford.

Religious Composition: The community is diverse, with approximately 36% Sikhism, 32% Hinduism, 12% Christianity, and 11% Islam.

Languages: Major languages include Punjabi, Hindi, Urdu, Tamil, and Gujarati.

Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Apr 24 2026 01:16pm)

The bold part is the reason why you don't know shit about the world. :rofl:

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Apr 24 2026 11:38am)

I see, thanks. Textbook example for the perils of mis- or unlabeled charts. ^_^

What's the picture on international students in Canada - I guess fucktons of Indians PLUS fucktons of Chinese?