its like the poe/poe2 trading website but better. you can link your items directly from stash into the trading website. also has an armory.

One thing nobody is mentioning is that PD2 has poor player retention. Unlike other versions of D2, you can actually see how many people are in-game/logged into the website. A lot of people show up for the first 2-4 weeks of ladder and then those numbers sharply drop off. If you are looking for non-ladder and/or a lot of PvP activity there is essentially none. Original D2 at least had that going for it as it was a major driver in keeping the game active for as long as it was. With that said, PD2 is not actually a bad version in itself but once the ladder ends you basically are just throwing everything away and starting over.

Because those points are irrelevant

Even though its true the playerbase falls off, its not that many people that do that and theres still plenty of players playing for the majority of the season, and its only really "dead" super super late into it. The average person wont even notice those players leaving anyway since theyre nolifers and will be team mapping and have end game stuff within a few days while youre still leveling up. The majority of the players base are experienced but still casual and play most of the season, starting new char after new char, or farming and bossing. It literally will not make a difference to anyone outside of those no lifers.

There also is a dedicated PVP and LLD community you can find in the discord, the game just isnt full of pubs like vanilla is

So you arent technically wrong, but its literally a non issue for the average player and noone really mentions it because theres no point in trying to scare people off with that

i want to play it but im not going to buy another key for D2 and LOD after losing my originals lol

It's not about scaring people off but rather letting someone know how it works so that they can make an informed decision. I would rather know those details than be someone who thinks that the player base behaves like original D2 only to find out there's not really a non-ladder population and/or much PvP activity. If you have to go to a discord to find duels it's because there isn't much PvP going on. It's basically a different "culture" on there and that's fine, but people should know what it is before investing their time into it.

I've been playing D2 since 1.08
Off and on for years. I can 100% confirm PD2 is the current best Diablo iteration by a long shot.

It's total garbage. Just to give you few hints:

1) Sorceress is forced to walk (if you teleport you lose 50% of all dmg dealt the next few seconds)
2) Servers are crashing nonstop (super bad for hardcore)
3) The Owner of the Mod cares only about the donations from Softcore and doesn't give a shit about hardcore (population is 90/10) and the SC players are as bad as the LoD players.
4) The "developers" are so utterly bad they make rookie mistakes literally every single new season
5) Every season there is a "featured" class and it is the only playable class, everything else is nerfed to the ground to promote that class.
6) You can't trade outside of the platform (and their garbage trade site)

If the above does not bother you, there are around 4k players active in the beginning of the season, which dies about 1 month from reset and then stays dead for 4 months before next reset.

lol that's non-sense..

1) The teleport dmg debuff lasts like 1 second or slightly less and it's not 50%... lightning sorc can get it down to around 25-30% with just 1 hard point into it and + skills/skillers
2) There were a couple of days where the servers were crashing but it's been patched by the devs and servers are quite good now
3) I don't know whether this is true or not, so no comment
4) What rookie mistakes? They constantly update the game every season
5) Maybe there are a couple of classes which are better than the rest theoretically, but all classes/builds are viable to some extent
6) Hmm maybe this is the only point I would concede, but the trading site isn't bad by any means... at least there is 1, unlike D2LoD/D2R

the player base was around 10k first week of season, now it's dropped off admittedly but still around 2-3k daily 1 month in

I played D2 lod for years back in the day and D2R 3-4 seasons, PD2 is much more refined in many aspects imho, it's what D2R should be

1) The teleport dmg debuff lasts like 1 second or slightly less and it's not 50%... lightning sorc can get it down to around 25-30% with just 1 hard point into it and + skills/skillers

If you are doing 5-6k dps, 30% lost of that is a TON in a map that has 15k life per monster... It is totally destructive for any sorceress and makes sorc totally not viable in the late game, unless it ... walks.

2) There were a couple of days where the servers were crashing but it's been patched by the devs and servers are quite good now
A ton of people died due to this, and the servers are now scaled down to infinity, since there are no further donations coming in, Senpai must optimize costs, and the people are the ones that suffer it.

3) I don't know whether this is true or not, so no comment
4) What rookie mistakes? They constantly update the game every season

- Read the change log in their Discord... "oops sorry, you killed Dclone and got not Overlord helm, but the garbage worth 5 wss, our bad" for example

5) Maybe there are a couple of classes which are better than the rest theoretically, but all classes/builds are viable to some extent
- To what extend? Paladin is garbage, Sorc is garbage, Druid is only good for bosses - unplayable in maps, Necro is viable for low level bossing - unplayable in maps, Amazon got gutted, Assassin got gutted, Only BARB is playable right now as the feature on the season shows.

6) Hmm maybe this is the only point I would concede, but the trading site isn't bad by any means... at least there is 1, unlike D2LoD/D2R

the player base was around 10k first week of season, now it's dropped off admittedly but still around 2-3k daily 1 month in --> maybe 10k the first 2 days? I started day 3 and trust me, it never exceeded 4k players, and right now 1500 is average total, with 90% being Softcore...

I played D2 lod for years back in the day and D2R 3-4 seasons, PD2 is much more refined in many aspects imho, it's what D2R should be