5/-5 x4 would this plain monarch filled with facets beat out my phoenix monarch on javazon if im using a inifnity and a sunder

Buddy Pheonix does NOT do anything for javazon dmg. Of course 20/20 does more dmg.

Lol phoenix on javazon is like spirit shield on barb

I would only use Phoenix if there was no jmod or spirit for some reason. It's useable, but it's not good or anything. Literally the only thing Phoenix does for javazon is help you not run out of mana... Which you should be able to not have issues with when you correct setups.

whats the correc setup huh and insight im sure

say it with comparison to jmod what about a monarch with 4 facets is that as good as a jmod if i cant get one?

Jmod java deletes. Atleast it did 20 years ago before d2 was d2r. I look at pheonix personally as a amazing pvm quality of life item or fire toon off hand. Thats only my opinon from a old ninja. so yeah def other ppl will know first hand more recently.

cuase my infinity sunder javazon in hc is destroying everything

what is set up correctly for mana? is a monarch the same good as a j mod its why i mad ethe thread and no one has answered