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Apr 20 2026 08:53am
well I usually have a lot of movespeed on them, teleport and smite take frames, you have about a 50/50 chance to evade then attack at max range. It takes skill but honestly owns noob smiters and can do decent vrs good smiters.

again is it op, no way. With near perfect gear can you win sometimes, yes.


interesting, thanks for your insight

A very talented telesmiter (or v/t) who actually knows how to play the class is an extremely difficult matchup for basically every class/build, especially for any class that can't afford to l8z.


never knew v/t stood for Very Talented, learn something new every day damn
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Apr 20 2026 08:55am
interesting, thanks for your insight



never knew v/t stood for Very Talented, learn something new every day damn


Some cope and say Vindicator/Templar but yes, it really just means Very/Talented.
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Apr 20 2026 08:57am
Still funny people believe a few dozen PvPers kept the game alive. 🤣

Pvp section is so dead aside from Melee duels
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Apr 20 2026 08:59am
Still funny people believe a few dozen PvPers kept the game alive. 🤣

Pvp section is so dead aside from Melee duels


Way more play than you think. If this wasn't true pvp items would have much less value
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Apr 20 2026 09:02am
Still funny people believe a few dozen PvPers kept the game alive. 🤣

Pvp section is so dead aside from Melee duels


What's even more incredible is your belief anyone actually mf'd or did pvm online past 2012–only botters. I believe we already went over this though and you ran outta steam to support your claim and stopped replying.

The only things people were doing past 2012 was dueling or just collecting gear and trading and not playing the game. These two camps were the vast majority of players. The 200 players in classic and hardcore (combined on all realms) doing pvm were an extreme minority.

And yes, just like I said before, when people are tired of the new shiny stuff and ActiVision Blizzard Entertainment stops adding stuff, the same pattern will repeat.

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What's even more incredible is your belief anyone actually mf'd or did pvm online past 2012–only botters. I believe we already went over this though and you ran outta steam to support your claim and stopped replying.

The only things people were doing past 2012 was dueling or just collecting gear and trading and not playing the game. These two camps were the vast majority of players. The 200 players in classic and hardcore (combined on all realms) doing pvm were an extreme minority.

And yes, just like I said before, when people are tired of the new shiny stuff and ActiVision Blizzard Entertainment stops adding stuff, the same pattern will repeat.


Don't care to really speak with multis and trolls, also made my point so there wasn't anything to add.

People like perfect items
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Apr 20 2026 10:08am
Don't care to really speak with multis and trolls, also made my point so there wasn't anything to add.

People like perfect items


Excellent rebuttal. I must be a multiple account or a troll, because I can defend my point and all you can say is "lol ppl are wrong".

If my join date was 20 years earlier, would my text look any different? You have no argument.

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Don't care to really speak with multis and trolls, also made my point so there wasn't anything to add.

People like perfect items


didn't make a very good point though tbh
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