Not so different from competitive fps games. Things are removed, league play is dialed in with restrictions, guidelines for match creation. Things are and will always be further balanced regardless on how good anyone could ever try and balance PvP in the game

Honestly, we're lucky that there's certain damage and skill restrictions in pvp at all and stuff like piercing guided arrow isn't a possibility.

But yes, the community will always be the ones to pickup the slack in the end regardless of how hard they try to balance it (which is zero effort at all).

/Who command is super useful

I want two more commands

/negative_resist player name
/Show status effects

So you can gear vrs opponents with -resist and can show status effects such as slow.

If they did these two things we could all self balance easier especially in pubs where the rules are looser and not everyone might realize that going -20 phys resist on a smiter is BM

what about smiters who use enigma ?

This post was edited by Ergol on Apr 20 2026 08:36am

since their damage is close range and you have 2 range on them you can win. with evade from hustle, near max dr, 10k health, 20k ar, and huge fury dmg & attack speed it's possible to win. Their main disadvantage is having near zero defense

PvM never left bro

since their damage is close range and you have 2 range on them you can win. with evade from hustle, near max dr, 10k health, 20k ar, and huge fury dmg & attack speed it's possible to win. Their main disadvantage is having near zero defense so charge while attempting fury is rough but if you time it proper you can outrange and out movespeed them for wins

This post was edited by chudman123 on Apr 20 2026 08:39am

i think you missed my point, no offense

how is range a factor when they can just telestomp you ?

well I usually have a lot of movespeed on them, teleport and smite take frames, you have about a 50/50 chance to evade then attack at max range. It takes skill but honestly owns noob smiters and can do decent vrs good smiters.

again is it op, no way. With near perfect gear can you win sometimes, yes.

also 90fhr from coa/hustle/dungos/bloodfist makes you really fast.

teleport takes 10 frames, smite takes 6, that mixed with evade gives you a chance to run to range 4 start fury and get a hit off then run away again from smite spell

This post was edited by chudman123 on Apr 20 2026 08:51am

A very talented telesmiter (or v/t) who actually knows how to play the class is an extremely difficult matchup for basically every class/build, especially for any class that can't afford to l8z.