Easiest solution for pvp? Change the numbers based on monster damage and player damage. Maybe abyss stays the same for damage PVM, but does less in PVP etc. Then the skills can be balanced however they need.

How about we just start with fixing(reverting) Barb whirlwind and fix his FCR because the rubber banding is ridiculous and we call it good?

Lol’d at the smiter vs Druid part, Druid is only at a disadvantage if the smiter uses tap (which shouldn’t be allowed) imo.

This post was edited by BuCkShOtZ on Apr 20 2026 06:37am

i’m good with just abyss nerf

add patching old boomers from dropping games with druid summons

just remove vines maybe, any1 actually use them for good purposes? Or simply remove summon death graphics after first one

you fury druid vrs smiter? I do this and it's fun, you use a 2h right?

If they add back wsg and fix ww, pvp will be in a much better state.

The wsg "fix" was probably the single worst change they made in d2r out of many meh changes.

This post was edited by Emiliaaa on Apr 20 2026 07:06am

I do wonder why they did this, was it just they hated being stun locked with mindblast? It was a PvP only change so wonder their intent.

I’m speaking on wind/fire Druid. I don’t duel fury Druids on my v/t, it’s not a very fair or fun match up.

With a botd gpa, hustle, ber ber coa and string/dungos you outrange them enough that you can win decently often.

That was my shapeshift druid buff suggestions. Would zero percent affect windy/fire druid

This is vrs pure smiter or hdinn. V/T there is no chance because they don't have to get close.

This post was edited by chudman123 on Apr 20 2026 07:16am

My suspicion is they weren't aware of how integral it was to pvp and they thought they were fixing a glitch that often caused your character to desynchronize from the server, which is what their goal was to fix things like that. They likely weren't even considering pvp–as they never do.