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Apr 19 2026 09:15pm
blade of grass is more complex than your computer. simple blade of grass proves creation narrative

atheist best argument, .........we from monkeys
https://www.ownzee.com/attachments/2012/03/pic6/4f5a9fb0-702c-4221-b5b0-2ee2cdbab12d.gif


How does a blade of grass prove god or creation narrative? (Inb4 yea but whataboutism noises*)
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Apr 19 2026 09:22pm
Non sequitur.

Still haven't provided proof of your god why are you aggressively dodging this?



It's not a misrepresentation when there is no uniform agreement on which is the correct interpretation.

You see my version as misrepresentation while i see yours as a misrepresentation. Likewise there are 1000 christian sects who see the bible differently to both if us.

Either one of us is right or all of us are wrong.
Just a bunch of individuals competing for having a monopoly of their version of truth.


Exactly, your version. You don't get to decide what the Bible means when you feel like it. You have zero knowledge of the bibles contents and you are being corrected by multiple people who are quoting the Bible as it is written.

The bible has one meaning and you are deliberately speaking apart from what the material actually stands for. Again you have no knowledge of the bible so you shouldn't expect yourself to understand. You should ask questions and be open minded to learn the text and form your own opinion. You speaking outside the bibles meaning you aren't actually arguing against the bible, you are arguing against your made up perversion of it. Which is literally going against what you are wanting to do. None of us actually need to say anything because you argue against yoursel

Satan cannot create something. He can only pervert things.

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Apr 19 2026 09:41pm
Outside of atheist westerners who mostly mean their best and who largely come from Christian cultures, I can only think of one other group that thinks Christianity is fake and actively seeks to wish it harm. I just don't understand how one could arrive at the thought where hating Jesus is a normal thing. Even removing Christianity from the equation, hating Jesus is like hating the Buddha. There is no real reason for either unless that is really what you harbor inside. Hatred, and hatred of that which is inherently good.

Anyway, an IDF soldier was caught smashing up a statue of Jesus earlier today in Lebanon. What a shame.

https://i.imgur.com/cd6vyjl.png


What kind of oppression olympics are you trying to pull here? Stating that something is fake isn't hate its just denying the claim until proven otherwise.
IDF soldier knocking down jesus statue is equivalent to christians knocking down a satan statue or a golden calf. Its the pot calling the kettle black, christians would do the same thing in a heartbeat.
Look up Christian iconclasm where the christians burned and destroyed anything that looked remotely religious other than their own.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iconoclasm

Instead of being a christian you could divorce yourself from those religious beliefs and let's stand together and call other religious people out on their hypocrisy.


blade of grass is more complex than your computer. simple blade of grass proves creation narrative

atheist best argument, .........we from monkeys
https://www.ownzee.com/attachments/2012/03/pic6/4f5a9fb0-702c-4221-b5b0-2ee2cdbab12d.gif


How does a blade of grass prove god or creation narrative?
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What kind of oppression olympics are you trying to pull here? Stating that something is fake isn't hate its just denying the claim until proven otherwise.
IDF soldier knocking down jesus statue is equivalent to christians knocking down a satan statue or a golden calf. Its the pot calling the kettle black, christians would do the same thing in a heartbeat.
Look up Christian iconclasm where the christians burned and destroyed anything that looked remotely religious other than their own.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iconoclasm

Instead of being a christian you could divorce yourself from those religious beliefs and let's stand together and call other religious people out on their hypocrisy.




How does a blade of grass prove god or creation narrative?


oh, I am not here to argue. I don't really see any benefit to trying to have a positive dialogue with you. I don't think that is actually possible based on past interactions with you. Your entire objective is to harass and sow discord. You aren't here to learn, share, or grow in an honest sense.
I just thought this picture deserved some notice and this thread was fertile ground.



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Exactly, your version. You don't get to decide what the Bible means when you feel like it. You have zero knowledge of the bibles contents and you are being corrected by multiple people who are quoting the Bible as it is written.

The bible has one meaning and you are deliberately speaking apart from what the material actually stands for. Again you have no knowledge of the bible so you shouldn't expect yourself to understand. You should ask questions and be open minded to learn the text and form your own opinion. You speaking outside the bibles meaning you aren't actually arguing against the bible, you are arguing against your made up perversion of it. Which is literally going against what you are wanting to do. None of us actually need to say anything because you argue against yoursel

Satan cannot create something. He can only pervert things.

God loves you addone, more than you realize.


Do you get to decide what the bible means?

If the bible has one meaning then why are there so many bibles? And why are there tens of thousands on interpretations by Christians themselves? Clearly there is more than one.

Not only can the Christians not agree on the interpretation of the bible they cannot even agree on how many books there are in the bible.

Protestant Bible: Contains 66 books (39 Old Testament, 27 New Testament).
Catholic Bible: Contains 73 books (46 Old Testament, 27 New Testament), including seven additional deuterocanonical books.
Eastern and Oriental Orthodox Bible: Contains 76 books.
Ethiopian Orthodox Bible: Contains the largest canon with 81 books.
Jewish Bible (Tanakh): Contains 24 books (equivalent to the Protestant Old Testament but arranged differently).

In light of this have you considered your interpretation could be wrong?


oh, I am not here to argue. I don't really see any benefit to trying to have a positive dialogue with you. I don't think that is actually possible based on past interactions with you. Your entire objective is to harass and sow discord. You aren't here to learn, share, or grow in an honest sense.
I just thought this picture deserved some notice and this thread was fertile ground.

https://i.imgur.com/cd6vyjl.png


Well you posted this somewhat irrelevant picture to this thread because you hate jews. I simply pointed out how its hypocritical of you when christians do exactly the same. I even provided you with a reference of christians doing exactly that throughout history.

Secondly I am all for learning and understanding this is why I keep asking for proof of your god. If you can provide legitimate proof and not these half cooked logical fallacies I will examine them with consideration. But this sounds like another excuse because you want to save yourself the embarrassment.

Why don't you try again and if you ask me to be open and honest I would ask you to be the same with me. If you can do that let's have this conversation.

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How does a blade of grass prove god or creation narrative? (Inb4 yea but whataboutism noises*)


how does it not?
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Apr 19 2026 10:39pm
how does it not?


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When I snap my fingers, you will forget that you were ever gay.


:rofl:

how does it not?


Shifting the burden of proof and argument from ignorance.
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Apr 20 2026 12:15am
Non sequitur.

Still haven't provided proof of your god why are you aggressively dodging this?



It's not a misrepresentation when there is no uniform agreement on which is the correct interpretation.

You see my version as misrepresentation while i see yours as a misrepresentation. Likewise there are 1000 christian sects who see the bible differently to both if us.

Either one of us is right or all of us are wrong.
Just a bunch of individuals competing for having a monopoly of their version of truth.


i've given proof but you don't understand logic and think it's a social construct, if that is the case proof of anything is literally impossible under your own worldview. I have demonstrated your worldview to be incoherent and mine the only possible one

and it's not a non-sequitur, it's an accurate representation of what I replied to. don't use terms if you have no idea what they mean it makes you look foolish.

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Do you get to decide what the bible means?

If the bible has one meaning then why are there so many bibles? And why are there tens of thousands on interpretations by Christians themselves? Clearly there is more than one.

Not only can the Christians not agree on the interpretation of the bible they cannot even agree on how many books there are in the bible.

Protestant Bible: Contains 66 books (39 Old Testament, 27 New Testament).
Catholic Bible: Contains 73 books (46 Old Testament, 27 New Testament), including seven additional deuterocanonical books.
Eastern and Oriental Orthodox Bible: Contains 76 books.
Ethiopian Orthodox Bible: Contains the largest canon with 81 books.
Jewish Bible (Tanakh): Contains 24 books (equivalent to the Protestant Old Testament but arranged differently).

In light of this have you considered your interpretation could be wrong?




Well you posted this somewhat irrelevant picture to this thread because you hate jews. I simply pointed out how its hypocritical of you when christians do exactly the same. I even provided you with a reference of christians doing exactly that throughout history.

Secondly I am all for learning and understanding this is why I keep asking for proof of your god. If you can provide legitimate proof and not these half cooked logical fallacies I will examine them with consideration. But this sounds like another excuse because you want to save yourself the embarrassment.

Why don't you try again and if you ask me to be open and honest I would ask you to be the same with me. If you can do that let's have this conversation.


It's a very tall order for me to bring Israel to New Zealand.

How is your trip to the HolyLandSite going? Have you booked your trip yet? If you really are an investigator and want to get to the bottom of this, you would go and make that trip.

Surely you wouldn't create a thread and wait for 200 pages if the very, very specific thing you are looking for is in Israel where all these things took place?

No, you would instead go and do what the guy in The Case For Christ did. Considering you made this thread at the start of the Year and there has been no progress, surely it's time for you to take that next approach? You could have done it already if you decided to go to Israel at the start of the Year.

It's not too late. You can still go to the Domain and do your research and make your enquiries there. You could start by going to the Red Sea.
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