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Apr 18 2026 02:26pm
When you start describing a nation’s very existence as "inherently sick," you’ve stopped talking about politics and started using the language of dehumanization. That’s not a critique of a government or a policy; it’s an admission that your issue isn’t with what Israel does, but with the fact that it is.
The "sickness" you’re describing is actually a people’s refusal to remain a stateless minority subject to the whims of others. For two thousand years, that was the status quo, and it ended in a century of unprecedented slaughter. If building a sovereign, high-tech democracy in their ancestral homeland to ensure they are never victims again is "sick" to you, then you’re simply proving my point: you don't want a "solution," you want a world where Israel doesn't exist.

History shows that when people start labeling an entire nation or ethnicity as a "sickness," they are usually the ones justifying the next round of violence. If you want peace, you have to accept the reality of the other side’s existence. If your starting point is that their existence is a disease, then you aren't part of a conversation you’re part of the problem


spare me the chatGPT bullshit, israel has been dehumanizing palestinians and lebanese for decades. treat others as you wish to be treated, right? not for the israelis, they think they are above the laws of man AND God
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spare me the chatGPT bullshit, israel has been dehumanizing palestinians and lebanese for decades. treat others as you wish to be treated, right? not for the israelis, they think they are above the laws of man AND God


Do you feel this to be true of 100% of the Israel population?

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spare me the chatGPT bullshit, israel has been dehumanizing palestinians and lebanese for decades. treat others as you wish to be treated, right? not for the israelis, they think they are above the laws of man AND God


If you have to resort to calling a structured argument 'bullshit' instead of explaining why you used the language of dehumanization, you’ve already lost the debate. Saying an entire people is 'above the laws of God' isn't an argument; it’s a trope. My point stands: if your starting point is that their existence is a 'sickness,' you are the barrier to the peace you claim to want
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If you have to resort to calling a structured argument 'bullshit' instead of explaining why you used the language of dehumanization, you’ve already lost the debate. Saying an entire people is 'above the laws of God' isn't an argument; it’s a trope. My point stands: if your starting point is that their existence is a 'sickness,' you are the barrier to the peace you claim to want


there is no debate; Israel is the oppressor and not the victim - the 'woe is me' false victimhood bullshit doesnt fly here. israel is actively genociding two different populations and you want to argue about language?
imagine the nazis complaining of detractors using 'dehumanizing language' against them while simultaneously carrying out a genocide. the audacity of you people is disgusting and dare i say it, NOT HUMAN !!!
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Do you feel this to be true of 100% of the Israel population?


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So is that a yes that you feel 100% of Israel's population does this?

Or no?
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Apr 18 2026 04:24pm
>if we kill all their leaders the regime will crumble and people will take to the streets

Fast forward to today...

>We killed their leaders and we don't have anyone to talk to. Even though we agreed to some shaky peace the new leaders have no control over localized armed units

https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/iran-war-us-talks-2026


I think it's rather a case of an internal power struggle in Iran between the politicians who want a peace agreement and the IRGC who wants to fight on. Would the Supreme Leader be able to prevent this power struggle if the US hadn't taken him out? Probably. Would he side with those wanting peace instead of war, though? Imho, that's an extremely doubtful assumption. (Of course there is no doubt about which side all the killed generals from the IRGC and their regular military would take.)




My point stands: if your starting point is that their existence is a 'sickness,' you are the barrier to the peace you claim to want


They want peace under the old definition of the term from the Soviet military handbook:
" 'Peace' is when the enemy is dead. "

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Straits of Hormuz open ?


Or ........ DO NOT REDEEM from Indians.


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there is no debate; Israel is the oppressor and not the victim - the 'woe is me' false victimhood bullshit doesnt fly here. israel is actively genociding two different populations and you want to argue about language?
imagine the nazis complaining of detractors using 'dehumanizing language' against them while simultaneously carrying out a genocide. the audacity of you people is disgusting and dare i say it, NOT HUMAN !!!


LoL to say that you are standing up for human rights while simultaneously declaring that i am 'not human.'

If the goal is to end 'disgusting' behavior and violence, then using the exact same language of dehumanization that has fueled every genocide in history including the ones you imagined hardly seems like the path to a solution.

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