Quote (addone @ Apr 17 2026 11:56pm)

Refusing to recognize a medieval hoax is an embarrassment to Christianity and an insult to your intelligence do better.

Here is a summary I found online detailing all the flaws =>>>>

"The primary evidence used to disprove the Shroud of Turin's authenticity is the 1988 radiocarbon dating, which placed the linen's origin between 1260 and 1390, confirming it as a medieval artifact rather than the burial cloth of Jesus. This scientific conclusion is supported by historical documents, including a 1390 letter from Bishop Pierre d'Arcis, who claimed the cloth was a fraud created by an artist to deceive the faithful, and a newly discovered 1370 text by philosopher Nicole Oresme that also alleged the Shroud was faked.

Additional forensic and scientific studies have further challenged the Shroud's validity by arguing that its image and bloodstains are inconsistent with a crucified human body:

3D modeling studies (including a 2025 analysis) suggest the image is more likely an imprint of a low-relief sculpture rather than a human body.
Blood pattern analysis conducted by forensic scientists indicates the stains are inconsistent with a single position, requiring multiple poses or different times to form, which contradicts the theory of a single burial.
Historical context reveals that the cloth appeared in France around 1355 and was later moved to Turin in 1578, with no credible documentation of its existence prior to the 14th century.
While the Vatican has not officially declared the Shroud fake, it considers the cloth an icon to be venerated rather than a holy relic, and some researchers argue that the 1988 dating may be flawed due to potential contamination or the use of a medieval repair patch. However, scientific consensus and historical records overwhelmingly point to the Shroud being a 14th-century creation made by human hands."

Here is some more in depth read
https://www.skeptic.com/article/shroud-of-turin-authenticity-examined/

Christians need to inject copium into their veins now and then because the church knows that if jesus was real he would have come back long ago. So for over 2000 years they give themselves a shot to keep going for another +10 more years.

Quote (addone @ Apr 18 2026 09:28am)

Well you are claiming this "god" of yours is real and true I call bullshit. The contents of the bible cannot be taken seriously until they are proven otherwise.
Anyone can make up more bullshit to explain original bullshit in an endless loop. Therefore talking about the contents of the bible are merely a side quest. You need to step away from making unsupported claims and present the actual proof which is the main quest.

So why are you so aggressively avoiding to provide proof? Is it perhaps you have nothing?

https://imgur.com/KvDrLgK.jpeg




I don't think you understand what proof actually is.

https://imgur.com/2xsTGFo.jpeg

Quote (addone @ Apr 17 2026 08:56pm)

Refusing to recognize a medieval hoax is an embarrassment to Christianity and an insult to your intelligence do better.

Here is a summary I found online detailing all the flaws =>>>>

"The primary evidence used to disprove the Shroud of Turin's authenticity is the 1988 radiocarbon dating, which placed the linen's origin between 1260 and 1390, confirming it as a medieval artifact rather than the burial cloth of Jesus. This scientific conclusion is supported by historical documents, including a 1390 letter from Bishop Pierre d'Arcis, who claimed the cloth was a fraud created by an artist to deceive the faithful, and a newly discovered 1370 text by philosopher Nicole Oresme that also alleged the Shroud was faked.

Additional forensic and scientific studies have further challenged the Shroud's validity by arguing that its image and bloodstains are inconsistent with a crucified human body:

3D modeling studies (including a 2025 analysis) suggest the image is more likely an imprint of a low-relief sculpture rather than a human body.
Blood pattern analysis conducted by forensic scientists indicates the stains are inconsistent with a single position, requiring multiple poses or different times to form, which contradicts the theory of a single burial.
Historical context reveals that the cloth appeared in France around 1355 and was later moved to Turin in 1578, with no credible documentation of its existence prior to the 14th century.
While the Vatican has not officially declared the Shroud fake, it considers the cloth an icon to be venerated rather than a holy relic, and some researchers argue that the 1988 dating may be flawed due to potential contamination or the use of a medieval repair patch. However, scientific consensus and historical records overwhelmingly point to the Shroud being a 14th-century creation made by human hands."

Here is some more in depth read
https://www.skeptic.com/article/shroud-of-turin-authenticity-examined/

Christians need to inject copium into their veins now and then because the church knows that if jesus was real he would have come back long ago. So for over 2000 years they give themselves a shot to keep going for another +10 more years.

Quote (chudman123 @ Apr 18 2026 03:59pm)

isn't it the end of the world if he comes back? I don't know everything but if that's the case that seems like it's bad

Quote (addone @ Apr 17 2026 09:31pm)

Its a super vague to the point could be today or billions of years from now.
Although in Matthew 24:34 it specifically states "Truly I tell you, this generation will not pass away until all these things have happened" meaning it should of happened already long ago.

Its not wise to base your life on baseless claims especially after 2000 years of no evidence, safe to say its all fake. At some point you have to ask yourself how many more thousands of years do you need to wait?

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"Truly I tell you, this generation will not pass away until all these things have happened" meaning it should of happened already long ago.

Quote (addone @ Apr 18 2026 12:31am)

Its a super vague to the point could be today or billions of years from now.
Although in Matthew 24:34 it specifically states "Truly I tell you, this generation will not pass away until all these things have happened" meaning it should of happened already long ago.

Its not wise to base your life on baseless claims especially after 2000 years of no evidence, safe to say its all fake. At some point you have to ask yourself how many more thousands of years do you need to wait?

Quote (D_urRRR @ Apr 19 2026 03:15am)

I'll continue to live my life following Jesus's example.

My life has flourished ever since I gave my life to him. I give God the glory in how my life has changed since then.

Christianity will continue to exist outside of this thread and you'll never change the truth of what happened on the cross. You have yet to expose the "truth" that you continue to hold only to yourself (there is no truth in your belief). You will continue dodging it because it'll only embarass you further. You are out of touch with reality. I'm proud to back what I believe in. You on the only hand will never discuss your belief and will never take this approach towards other religions for the simple fact Jesus is truth and you have a heart issue with your creator.

In order for our life to exist something has to of always existed as again life can't exist from a state of nothing. A state of nothing has never existed. We have too much knowledge historically of Jesus preaching the truth behind our existence and we have countless testimonies from his time on Earth and his truth has remained since that day. God's word has carried and will continue to exist. You will never remove the church from our world because God would never allow his people to perish.

John 3:16: "...that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life".

I'm thankful we have a loving father that has given us the blessing of free will to live the life he calls us to live. I get to see my life unfold with countless blessings from the decisions I make with him at the front of those decisions.

addone will never take that from a follower of Jesus. It's time you accept that FACT that your belief is fake and will never become reality.

Checkmate.

Quote (addone @ Apr 18 2026 04:19pm)

Eternal life?

Said billions of dead Christians. :rofl: maybe they didn't pray hard enough.

Quote (D_urRRR @ Apr 19 2026 08:25am)

Yet the resurrection occurred.

Jesus came and chose to fulfill that promise and thank God for that.

Your life did not randomly occur and your life won't randomly just vanish and disappear at death.

Quote (addone @ Apr 18 2026 04:40pm)

0 proof and strawman claims. Failure to acknowledge no eternal life.

Have you asked yourself what was life like before you were born? Well what if its like that after you inevitably die? You are scared of not being to live forever and I can see why you would run to any fantasy that promises you consciousness even after death.
Even though there is no proof of this you rather believe a comforting lie.