Claiming Israel has no right to exist under international law is factually illiterate. Israel was established via UN Resolution 181; it is a member state of the UN. If you want to talk about 1948, the 'aggression' began when five Arab armies invaded a nascent state with the explicit goal of a 'war of extermination.' As for the 'poisoning wells' trope, you're literally recycling medieval blood libels. If your entire worldview relies on 14th-century conspiracy theories and the dehumanization of 'so-called Americans.

If you want to talk about agressions, just type massacre Israel in Google, this is just from wikipedia…
2006 Shiyyah airstrike
2021 Wehda Street airstrikes
2024 Akkar airstrike
2024 Rafah hostage raid
2025 Bint Jbeil drone strike
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Abu Shusha massacre
October 2024 Aitou airstrike
Al-Farabi School bombing
Al-Kabri massacre
Killing of al-Najjar children
April 2025 Shuja'iyya airstrike
14 October 2024 Al-Aqsa Hospital attack
Arab al-Mawasi massacre
Attack on Marjayoun convoy
Attacks on health facilities during the Gaza war
August 2025 Israeli attack on Sanaa
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October 2024 Bachoura airstrike
Bahr El-Baqar primary school bombing
2024 Basta airstrikes
19 October 2024 Beit Lahia attacks
29 October 2024 Beit Lahia airstrike
2024 Beqaa Valley airstrikes
C
Church of Saint Porphyrius airstrike
D
Al-Dalu family killing
Al-Dawayima massacre
December 2023 Salem family airstrikes
Deif family killings
August 2024 Deir al-Balah attacks
2024 Derdghaya Melkite Church airstrike
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Eilabun massacre
Palestinian expulsion from Lydda and Ramle
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Al-Fakhoora school airstrikes
Flour Massacre
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2014 Gaza war beach bombings
Gaza genocide
2025 Gaza Strip aid distribution killings
2006 Ghaziyeh airstrikes
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Hamama School bombing
Hula massacre
I
Ibrahim al-Maqadma Mosque attack
Israeli bombing of Cairo
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31 October 2023 Jabalia refugee camp airstrike
January 2025 southern Lebanon attack
September 2024 Al-Jawni School attack
July 2024 Houthi–Israel attacks
K
Kafr Qasim massacre
22 July 2024 Khan Yunis attack
Khan Yunis massacre
Killings and massacres during the 1948 Palestine war
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Libyan Arab Airlines Flight 114
M
Maarakeh bombing
Mansouri attack
September 2024 Al-Mawasi refugee camp attack
May 2024 Al-Mawasi refugee camp attack
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Attack on Nabatieh municipal council
Nasser Hospital siege
2025 Nasser Hospital strikes
Nuseirat rescue and massacre
O
Operation Accountability
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Attacks on Palestinians evacuating Gaza City
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2006 Al-Qaa airstrike
2006 Qana airstrike
Qana massacre
Qibya massacre
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1956 Rafah massacre
Rafah paramedic massacre
Killing of Hind Rajab
Ras Sedr massacre
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Sa'sa' massacre
Safsaf massacre
Saliha
September 2025 Israeli attacks in Yemen
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Al-Tabaeen school attack
Tantura massacre
Tel al-Sultan attack
1990 Temple Mount killings
2024 Tulkarm Camp airstrike
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World Central Kitchen aid convoy attack
Z
Zeitoun killings
Zrarieh raid

This post was edited by Gunlad on Apr 18 2026 07:35am

You're talking about the Arab liberation campaign that began after the Nakba, where jews sought to exterminate the Palestinian population and killed almost a million in a very short period of time? That is "aggression" to you?

Operation Cast Thy Bread is well documented, the jews wrote it down.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Cast_Thy_Bread



It was a biological extermination campaign, which included the poisoning of wells.

It's a useful mechanism for calling out intellectual fallacies which your arguments are riddled with. Such as when you are resort to the chosen people trope and Jews control the world deflection when most of us are pressing the assertion that Israel has too much disproportional influence over USA. Then what's worse you don't even acknowledge the f****** fire hose of money y'all require to stay out of the bomb shelters while simultaneously bombing your neighbors

You are citing events from 2025 to justify an opinion on the 1948 founding. This is a logical fallacy. Defensive wars or urban combat operations in the 21st century do not retroactively make the 1948 Arab invasion 'legal' or the UN recognition of Israel 'illiterate.'

According to Palestinian Propaganda every airstrike is a massacre

Claiming "almost a million" were killed in 1948 is a mathematical and historical impossibility. The total Arab population of Mandatory Palestine was roughly 1.3 million; if a million had been killed, the Palestinian people would have been virtually erased. Even the most critical "New Historians" place the death toll between 10,000 and 15,000. Inflating the numbers by 100x isn't an argument; it’s a fabrication.

Regarding Operation Cast Thy Bread: It is a documented historical fact that the Haganah attempted localized biological sabotage a violation of the Geneva Protocol and a war crime. However, calling a failed tactical attempt that caused zero mass fatalities a "biological extermination campaign" is a total distortion of scale. It’s also a massive double standard: if a state loses its right to exist because its military committed war crimes during a war of survival, then virtually no nation on Earth (including every one of the five Arab nations that invaded in 1948) would have a right to exist.

The "aggression" remains clear under international law:
1. Legitimacy: Israel was established via UN Resolution 181.
2. Invasion: Five sovereign armies crossed an international border with the explicit, recorded goal of a "war of extermination" (to quote Arab League Secretary-General Azzam Pasha).
You are using a rouge tactical failure to justify a multi-national invasion and to deny a people's right to self-determination. One was a crime committed during a war; the other was a crime of starting the war itself.

Accusing me of "deflection" doesn't change the fiscal reality: over 70% of U.S. military aid to Israel must be spent directly in the United States. It is a strategic subsidy for the American defense industry that ensures the U.S. maintains a qualitative military edge (QME) for its primary ally in the region, while keeping American assembly lines running. This isn't a "fire hose of charity"; it’s an investment in a laboratory for American technology.

Furthermore, you claim "disproportionate influence," yet the reality on the ground shows the opposite. If that influence were as absolute as you suggest, Israel wouldn't be facing constant pressure from Washington to limit its operations, delay its objectives, or adjust its red lines in Lebanon and Gaza. In reality, the aid functions as a leash, not a blank check. It gives the U.S. a seat in the cabinet room and the power to demand "strategic patience" that often runs counter to Israel’s immediate security needs.

The "bomb shelters" you mention exist because of the thousands of rockets fired by Iranian proxies the very groups that would dominate the region if the U.S. didn't have a strong, stable partner in Israel. You can't complain about the "cost" of the alliance while ignoring the catastrophic cost to U.S. interests if that alliance didn't exist. Calling that an "intellectual fallacy" isn't a critique; it’s an admission that you’re ignoring the mechanics of geopolitics in favor of a narrative.

This post was edited by Many_Names on Apr 18 2026 12:48pm

Lol are you sure you want to talk about mathematical and historical impossibilities for numbers of deaths?

The fact is your people attempted to exterminate the entire Palestinian population: you failed, and the few that remained persevered and had alot of children. There is a reason why the Palestinian population is very young.

"Localized biological sabotage" is an odd euphemism for poisoning wells. So you concede that it is true, and not a "blood libel"? It's not libel if it's it's true. The wretched jews have used the poisoning wells tactic for centuries, most prominently against my people in the Middle Ages. The Haganag is the IDF - the same dirty old terrorist organization. Your bolded sentence here is just invoking the law of the jungle to your favour. By your own standards, the Hamas raid into Israel was entirely legitimate. Much more legitimate in fact, because they are simply seeking to reclaim their own territory.

You’re confusing a verified military event from 1948 with a medieval myth. "Operation Cast Thy Bread" was a localized, failed military sabotage attempt during a 20th-century war. The antisemitic "blood libel" refers to the 14th-century conspiracy theory that Jews caused the Black Death by poisoning wells a fantasy used to justify the massacre of thousands of Jews across Europe. Using a tactical failure from 1948 to "prove" a 700-year-old supernatural conspiracy theory is the definition of a prejudice looking for a pretext.

Regarding your other points:
• The Demographics: Claiming the "few that remained" had children to explain the population today is a mathematical fantasy. If you start with 1.3 million people, and "almost a million" are killed, you are left with 300,000. For that population to reach the millions seen today in just a few decades would require a birth rate that defies human biology. The population grew because the death toll was actually 1% of what you’re claiming. You are literally inventing a genocide to fit a narrative.

• The "Law of the Jungle": There is a massive legal distinction between a sovereign state established by a UN Resolution defending itself against five invading armies, and a terrorist group crossing a recognized border to intentionally target civilians.

• The Hamas Comparison: If you believe the October 7th raid was "legitimate" because they were "reclaiming territory," then you are explicitly rejecting the very "International Law" you tried to invoke earlier. You can’t cite the Geneva Protocol to complain about poisoned wells in one breath, and then ignore the entire UN Charter to justify mass kidnapping and slaughter in the next.

Finally, calling the IDF a "dirty old terrorist organization" while defending a group that uses human shields and takes toddlers hostage is a staggering level of cognitive dissonance. If Israel wanted to "exterminate" the population, they wouldn't have waited 75 years while that population grew tenfold. The "failure" you’re mocking is actually the simple fact that extermination was never the goal survival was.

International law is for Canadians and Europeans as I already told you. It’s “rules for thee” because you made them, not for me because you are powerless to enforce them and only wield them as a political cudgel. America enforces world order based on Western values, international courts are entirely useless.

Keep begging terrorists to pay you after they murder your countrymen if that’s how you think the world will become a better place.

We just kill them with robots around here.