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Apr 17 2026 08:42pm
day 2 of season 13 2x mal were 100 ea
so ist would likely be 250-400 depending on how fast you wanted it

Shako day 2 was 1k+

1st jah ber is 25-45k ~ basically choose your sale price
day 2 its 10-15k


I see, thanks a lot for that info!
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Apr 17 2026 09:23pm
well, if I buy only 1 or 2 missing parts, then I just do small pay2win :) I still have to farm a lot
if someone buys the whole build like few days into the ladder without farming much, I feel it is way more serious pay2win; I was annoyed by a suggestion that I will be unable to just buy travi barb for my 400fg, so that I should not play it at the start; this is the logic of simply buying stuff with fg acomulated over the years, rather than playing the game on your own, collect crap gear etc; I dont like this aspect of d2jsp
Also I had in mind people who have like 100k+ forum gold and just buy whatever they want at whatever point of the ladder, not any person that trades here; this completly destroys the idea of the new ladder; I feel like forum gold should also get reset sometimes, or some kind of restriction on the new ladder


Bots. Jsp.

Removing both of those and any other outside influences would make D2 a very different game. I think it would be a blast!!

But sadly, that’s not the reality we have. You just need to adapt the way you see fit

Just before D2R came out I played a ladder of D2 to brush up on the game. I rushed to Hell Meph and was so hyped to find a Shako. I showed it off on FaacceBoook and was pretty much laughed at. That’s when I learned about Jsp and how strong of an influence it had. My Shako was nothing

I tend to min/max everything I can within reason. I took Jsp and made it a part of my gameplan going forward after that. D2R released and I did hundreds of Uber kills for torches. I had pay2win all the keys and gear. Farmed 100k fg off Unid torches. That was just the beginning. It only got more crazy from there going forward… Anni was mind blowing
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Apr 17 2026 10:13pm
Bots. Jsp.

Removing both of those and any other outside influences would make D2 a very different game. I think it would be a blast!!

But sadly, that’s not the reality we have. You just need to adapt the way you see fit

Just before D2R came out I played a ladder of D2 to brush up on the game. I rushed to Hell Meph and was so hyped to find a Shako. I showed it off on FaacceBoook and was pretty much laughed at. That’s when I learned about Jsp and how strong of an influence it had. My Shako was nothing

I tend to min/max everything I can within reason. I took Jsp and made it a part of my gameplan going forward after that. D2R released and I did hundreds of Uber kills for torches. I had pay2win all the keys and gear. Farmed 100k fg off Unid torches. That was just the beginning. It only got more crazy from there going forward… Anni was mind blowing


I still hope that they add in-game auction house at some point. I guess a lot of people then would not look for external trading sites.

You are right. D2jsp and other sides are influencing everyone, no matter if I am here or not (e.g., they influence economy, although still some people on BN trade like it is still 2008; I like it). Have to adapt. I am still not sure what approach should I take. Whether d2jsp should play central or peripheral role in my ladder.

It is difficult to trade in game, but trading on d2jsp also takes time. I feel like when I trade a lot here, I am spending more time on the form than farming in the game. I dont like this since I am time constrainted. But at the same time dont want to "fall behind" by not trading. It would be great if we had mode where we can play multiplayer but could not trade or pick up items from others (bind on equip).

Thx for the story. Interesting. Yeah, forum allows for crazy optimalization and to do a lot of more stuff faster, on bigger scale. Interesting. I have never thought that one could reach 100k on their own. This is appealing in some way because one can then trully allow buying goldy/trophy items and acheving true min/max. That's why I might do small optimalization next ladder so that I start horker earlier and simply earn more. But at the same time, I am afraid that I trully can take away some fun out of the game. Or maybe we are then just playing other game. And I could just endorse it fully.

This post was edited by karolus1112 on Apr 17 2026 10:36pm
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Apr 17 2026 11:17pm
Nah, that's not true.
Of course it gets harder to sell things, but during current ladder I rolled trav barb in April and every day I can sell pgms/ral/sol/igg for like 50-80fg easy. It is not that bad. Rich people here will buy any number of crafting materials.
Trav is constant profit no matter what.


Yeah… a single decent drop day 2, using blizzsorc in trash gear, will outperform a whole month of 50-80fg profits.

But I won’t be stopping you, do as you wish.

This post was edited by kayko on Apr 17 2026 11:18pm
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Apr 17 2026 11:21pm
portal barb better
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Apr 17 2026 11:55pm
Yeah… a single decent drop day 2, using blizzsorc in trash gear, will outperform a whole month of 50-80fg profits.

But I won’t be stopping you, do as you wish.


Maybe. But: 1. Sorc herself to farm efficiently needs gear which is the most expensive early. As trav barb I can sell all shacos, oczu, chance guards, vipers etc. 2. Obviously sorc is the beat starter. But efficiency is not everything. There is also a fun part. Not everything have to be most efficient. 3. sorc can be better at mid-tier meph/andy drops, but trav barb can get early HRs :) Want to gamble on that.
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Apr 18 2026 12:53am
Please do report back how it went.
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Apr 18 2026 12:56am
They Go for Tree Fiddy after 1 Week b)
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Please do report back how it went.


Sure. Will do. Plan to not leave Travi until I dont see Jah :D
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