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Apr 17 2026 03:16am


Put this trash together to show some different weapon choices on this Cheeser build.
It is all glass cannon for that one hit wonder. All Glass, and its fragile.

Test Gear as follows:

Helm: Peasant Crown (socketed with 10 min dmg jewel)
Armor: Peace Mageplate
Amulet: +2 PCombat // +5 min dmg // +58 life // +88 mana
Rings: 2x SoJ
Gloves: Frostburn
Belt: IK Belt
Boots: Goblin Toe
charms: 10x 10max//ar//6str gc's + 10x 3max/ar/2str sc's

4 different weapons tested + a bonus lvl 34 weapon:
*Honor Lance (eth 15% sup)
*Insight Partizan (eth 15% sup with perfect roll)
*Honor Martel de Fer (eth 15% sup)
*Bonesnap (upped and eth perfect roll socketed with 20%ed/10min jewel)
*Steeldriver (upped and eth perfect roll socketed with 20%ed/10min jewel) (this is lvl 34)

40 skill points used:
maxed Might
maxed Charge

For all weapons, minimum dex needed for weapon and rest into str.

not accounting for any DS or CS

Honor Lance comes in last

6k average dmg, lowest minimum damage of the lot tested.

next up is the partizan Insight

just slightly higher average dmg, better minimum damage than Lance making up that difference.

next is Martel de Fer Honor

Big damage jump in minimum, and a little bit on the top as well

next is Bonesnap (bis at lvl 30)

Big time damage!

and if you wanted to lvl up to level 34, steeldriver comes in on top

though, I think we both can agree, stopping at lvl 30 with bonesnap is probably best.

Now lets factor in DS and CS and CB

Honor Lance has 25% DS // 46% CS // 25% CB
Insight Partizan has 58% CS // 25% CB
Honor Martel de Fer has 25% DS // 46% CS // 25% CB
Bonesnap has 42% CS // 65% CB
Steeldriver has 42% CS // 25% CB

CS + DS*(100-CS)/100

Lance: 46 + 25*(100-25)/100 = 64% double damage chance + 25% crushing blow chance
Partizan: 58% double damage chance + 25% crushing blow chance
Martel: 46 + 25*(100-25)/100 = 64% double damage chance + 25% crushing blow chance
Bonsnap: 42% double damage chance + 65% crushing blow chance
Steeldriver: 42% double damage chance + 25% crushing blow chance

total average damage output per hit (DPH) (not DPS)
Lance: 12.5k/2 = 6.25k*1.64= 10,250 average damage per hit
Partizan: 13.2/2 = 6.60k*1.58= 10,433 average damage per hit
Martel: 14.8/2 = 7.41k*1.64= 12,163 average damage per hit
Bonesnap: 17.5k/2 = 8.78k*1.42= 12,471 average damage per hit
Steeldriver: 18.65k/2 = 9.32k*1.42= 13,242 average damage per hit

Steeldriver not being level 30, so lets toss that out, I just felt like testing it.

Bonesnap is the clear winner here with the Honor Martel right behind it.

Key notes: armor choice for Partizan is not ideal, but for the sake of testing, I wanted to keep it the same as the rest.

At the end of the day, I really dont think it would matter which of these you choose, they all kick ass with over 10k per hit on average, and we didnt even factor in the CB.

have fun!
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Apr 17 2026 05:17am
Insight best
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Apr 17 2026 07:45am
Damn, how cool! Thank you very much, that helps alot!! :hug:

And im totally with you, in the end the average damage per hit is what really matters (and maybe the consistancy) - atleast for my personal scenario (which isnt legit LLD dueling but instead BM brawls/pking).

I wonder why so many ppl prefer insight?! :huh:

This post was edited by Ollivander on Apr 17 2026 08:01am
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Apr 17 2026 07:57am
Damn, how cool! Thank you very much, that helps alot!! :hug:

And im totally with you, in the end the average damage per hit is what really matters (and maybe the consistancy) - atleast for my personal scenario (which isnt legit LLF dueling but instead BM brawls/pking).

I wonder why so many ppl prefer insight?! :huh:


Medi helps you not go oom, even with pots if u go oom and get stuck in norm attack animation it can be deadly. 250% ar is a nice bonus. max range. high min dmg. crit strike to offset its loses vs honor. etc.

being perfectly honest, you have 452k fg, buy both and get to testing vs actual people lol. both can work fine.
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Apr 17 2026 08:03am
Medi helps you not go oom, even with pots if u go oom and get stuck in norm attack animation it can be deadly. 250% ar is a nice bonus. max range. high min dmg. crit strike to offset its loses vs honor. etc.


Legit points, especially AR ist really important if you put all eggs into the 1-hit-basket i guess :lol:
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Apr 17 2026 08:05am
Legit points, especially AR ist really important if you put all eggs into the 1-hit-basket i guess :lol:


the lvl difference is a killer, because it is innate in the chance to hit formula, sadly. but u can still get hits in. and can swap to angelics and ditch sojs to test if that helps.
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Apr 17 2026 05:29pm
All that plus crit levels on insight are a lot higher
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Apr 17 2026 05:35pm
All that plus crit levels on insight are a lot higher


i pointed out in the OP its lower than Honor + Peace

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CS + DS*(100-CS)/100

Lance: 46 + 25*(100-25)/100 = 64% double damage chance + 25% crushing blow chance
Partizan: 58% double damage chance + 25% crushing blow chance
Martel: 46 + 25*(100-25)/100 = 64% double damage chance + 25% crushing blow chance
Bonsnap: 42% double damage chance + 65% crushing blow chance
Steeldriver: 42% double damage chance + 25% crushing blow chance

total average damage output per hit (DPH) (not DPS)
Lance: 12.5k/2 = 6.25k*1.64= 10,250 average damage per hit
Partizan: 13.2/2 = 6.60k*1.58= 10,433 average damage per hit
Martel: 14.8/2 = 7.41k*1.64= 12,163 average damage per hit
Bonesnap: 17.5k/2 = 8.78k*1.42= 12,471 average damage per hit
Steeldriver: 18.65k/2 = 9.32k*1.42= 13,242 average damage per hit


This post was edited by tastegw on Apr 17 2026 05:35pm
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