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Apr 17 2026 03:14pm
coven... sounds like a trap build


well this RW is good for war cry barb; still not decided whether I will go BO barb or straight into ww/zerker
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Apr 17 2026 03:15pm
well this RW is good for war cry barb; still not decided whether I will go BO barb or straight into ww/zerker


yup thats the trap
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Apr 17 2026 03:16pm
Sounds like relatively new d2 player from EU to be honest.
Maybe mid 2012?


Yeah, I am EU player from 2007-2010 era :D
Just came back to d2 with new exp.
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Apr 17 2026 03:19pm
yup thats the trap


why? overall crap build due to low dmg? I saw some yt videos on which this barb clears pit p1 quite fast. However, probably without a torch, anni, merc, etc in early ladder it will struggle...
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Apr 17 2026 04:19pm
You won't be able to buy a trav barb for 400fg early on.

And later on, once the prices crash, there is little reason to farm anymore.


Buy high sell low

Always
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Apr 17 2026 04:24pm
well I dont plan to just "buy" a trav barb like pay2win players here on d2jsp; I simply plan to buy some things that I will be missing becasue are quire rare, like stormshield or mal rune


You are asking a question about trading and pricing and calling the people who provide you the answer to such a question as “pay to win”?
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Apr 17 2026 04:29pm
well I dont plan to just "buy" a trav barb like pay2win players here on d2jsp; I simply plan to buy some things that I will be missing becasue are quire rare, like stormshield or mal rune


The hypocrisy here is kinda wild. So you think jsp is p2w when used for a full char but you who only buys rare, difficult to obtain things to finish your build, are somehow exempt from this?

Nah bro. Go find your Mal or Stormshield otherwise you’re no better than people buying full builds.

This post was edited by KronicDW on Apr 17 2026 04:30pm
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Apr 17 2026 04:38pm
well I dont plan to just "buy" a trav barb like pay2win players here on d2jsp; I simply plan to buy some things that I will be missing becasue are quire rare, like stormshield or mal rune


so, you don’t plan to just “buy” a trav barb, because that’d be “play2win.” instead, you plan to just buy all of the gear you’re missing, because that’s different.

:huh:
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Apr 17 2026 08:34pm
The hypocrisy here is kinda wild. So you think jsp is p2w when used for a full char but you who only buys rare, difficult to obtain things to finish your build, are somehow exempt from this?

Nah bro. Go find your Mal or Stormshield otherwise you’re no better than people buying full builds.


well, if I buy only 1 or 2 missing parts, then I just do small pay2win :) I still have to farm a lot
if someone buys the whole build like few days into the ladder without farming much, I feel it is way more serious pay2win; I was annoyed by a suggestion that I will be unable to just buy travi barb for my 400fg, so that I should not play it at the start; this is the logic of simply buying stuff with fg acomulated over the years, rather than playing the game on your own, collect crap gear etc; I dont like this aspect of d2jsp
Also I had in mind people who have like 100k+ forum gold and just buy whatever they want at whatever point of the ladder, not any person that trades here; this completly destroys the idea of the new ladder; I feel like forum gold should also get reset sometimes, or some kind of restriction on the new ladder

This post was edited by karolus1112 on Apr 17 2026 08:45pm
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Apr 17 2026 08:37pm
day 2 of season 13 2x mal were 100 ea
so ist would likely be 250-400 depending on how fast you wanted it

Shako day 2 was 1k+

1st jah ber is 25-45k ~ basically choose your sale price
day 2 its 10-15k
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