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#21
Apr 17 2026 02:16am
Quote (kayko @ Apr 17 2026 12:29am)
Give me a gear setup that will bring a light immune to below 0% res


it can be achieved even without new sunder / new jewel
self infinity itself can lower sundered monster res by 85/5 + 55 = 72
griffon can lower by 25
viper can lower by 5 -- if going extreme, this can be -20 with a 4os armor.

That's already 102, at base 95 res, it means that immune monsters have -7 light res
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#22
Apr 17 2026 02:18am
Quote (babun1024 @ Apr 17 2026 09:47am)
+10% guardian's thunder and +15% renewed crack of the heavens. You need more damage.


-10 thunder -10 crack = final modifier, 20% (when monster is below 0% res)

is better than +10% +15% diluted in mastery






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#23
Apr 17 2026 02:22am
Quote (UncleBens1650 @ Apr 17 2026 12:27am)
I believe it's not the case, because of the stat rarity and quantity. If you already bring down monster to 0%, then if you take example of renewed crack, assuming you got to 0%, then it's better to have +15% instead of -10%.

To me it seems that after ELR 78% (after sunder 95, conviction 1/5 effectivity -17%), it's better that stat which you can get more of.

https://gcdnb.pbrd.co/images/NcGTBwrFZsQy.png


He's right. for a light or fire sorc, -res is always better, because fire/light mastery already give huge amount of + skill damage, any +skill damage from gear is additive to mastery +skill damage.

That's why when used by a nova sorc, -20/+10 griffon is better than -19/+15 griffon.
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#24
Apr 17 2026 02:31am
This shiiite, once monster is 0%

Why "-Res" beats "+Skills" for Nova

As a Sorceress, you have Lightning Mastery. By the time you are in endgame gear, your Mastery likely provides +400% to +500% Lightning Damage.The Diminishing Returns of +Skills: If you add another +10% Lightning Damage from a piece of gear, it is additive to your Mastery. Going from +400% to +410% is only a 2% actual damage increase.

The Multiplicative Power of -Res: If a monster has 0% resistance and you apply -20% Resistance (from Griffon’s Eye), you deal 120% damage. That is a 20% actual damage increase.

<3 rediscovering this after billion explanations

This post was edited by UncleBens1650 on Apr 17 2026 02:33am
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#25
Apr 17 2026 02:48am
Quote (UncleBens1650 @ Apr 17 2026 10:31am)
This shiiite, once monster is 0%

Why "-Res" beats "+Skills" for Nova

As a Sorceress, you have Lightning Mastery. By the time you are in endgame gear, your Mastery likely provides +400% to +500% Lightning Damage.The Diminishing Returns of +Skills: If you add another +10% Lightning Damage from a piece of gear, it is additive to your Mastery. Going from +400% to +410% is only a 2% actual damage increase.

The Multiplicative Power of -Res: If a monster has 0% resistance and you apply -20% Resistance (from Griffon’s Eye), you deal 120% damage. That is a 20% actual damage increase.

<3 rediscovering this after billion explanations


That was brainfart on my end regarding nova sorc. -10% resist is indeed more useful but the damage I achieved with maxroll was 18.5k vs brem the sparkling one. I was using faceted viper btw.
https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/20vem0sm

This post was edited by babun1024 on Apr 17 2026 02:59am
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#26
Apr 17 2026 03:06am
Quote (kayko @ Apr 17 2026 10:29am)
Give me a gear setup that will bring a light immune to below 0% res


Infinity -55
Griffon -30
Jewler's armor of Nova Shield -20
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#27
Apr 17 2026 03:09am
Quote (kayko @ Apr 17 2026 10:41am)
How are you gonna get to 105fcr with enigma in place of viper?

But the calculation is correct, you actually can get to negative res on a light immune monster (with viper), I didn't realize that.

So what difference does this make, in the end?

That you'd prefer more lightning skill dmg on your Guardian's Thunder Jewel rather than more negative res? Something else I am missing?


Griffon 25%
Amulet 20%
Rings 20%
Gloves 20%
Belt 20%


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#28
Apr 17 2026 03:47am
Quote (RingoMal @ 17 Apr 2026 11:06)
Infinity -55
Griffon -30
Jewler's armor of Nova Shield -20


Quote (RingoMal @ 17 Apr 2026 11:09)
Griffon 25%
Amulet 20%
Rings 20%
Gloves 20%
Belt 20%


Ok, but then you give up SoJ, 3/10 amu, good armor...

Anyway,
Dolphy
is right. Adding couple of percentages to an already high lightning mastery is nowhere near as good as stacking more negative res, which acts multiplicatively with mastery and skills.
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#29
Apr 17 2026 03:52am
Quote (kayko @ Apr 17 2026 12:47pm)
Ok, but then you give up SoJ, 3/10 amu, good armor...

Anyway, ^Dolphy is right. Adding couple of percentages to an already high lightning mastery is nowhere near as good as stacking more negative res, which acts multiplicatively with mastery and skills.


yes, I agree, -res better

you can get ctc nova rings and ctc nova boots, 2 extra nova from getting hit can finish the pack faster so you can move to the next one, in Chaos Sanctuary at least.
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#30
Apr 17 2026 04:41am
Basically every Jsp user will get to those -78% ELR naturally, every Joe gets infi, griff, guardian thunder, facet and that's basically it, no need for perf. So the only thing is to buy more expensive renewed crack with minus and then perf all infis and griff stats. But there is no specific thing to look out for.

Some folks still used crescent, but self wield infi is the way for p8tz, the only choice.

A proper reinventing wheel topic :D I must have done this research like 5 times since 2001? lul

This post was edited by UncleBens1650 on Apr 17 2026 04:46am
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