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Apr 15 2026 12:39pm
Yes, thats way more balanced


Then let's balance. How long should we gate a paladin's Conviction on new ladder? A month? Have them Charsi a Ber Mal Ber Ist to unlock it? 1000x Infinitys made on ladder like the old Dclone spawns?

Free Conviction is gamebreaking, so remove it.
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Apr 15 2026 01:48pm
Then let's balance. How long should we gate a paladin's Conviction on new ladder? A month? Have them Charsi a Ber Mal Ber Ist to unlock it? 1000x Infinitys made on ladder like the old Dclone spawns?

Free Conviction is gamebreaking, so remove it.


Thats what I say
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Apr 15 2026 03:07pm
Those who voted to have free conv free fana free amp from a summun are idiots.

What do barb gets ? A useless totem, must use 2 hands to use 2handed

What do necro gets ? Weak trash golems

Can continue for ages...
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Apr 15 2026 03:09pm
Then let's balance. How long should we gate a paladin's Conviction on new ladder? A month? Have them Charsi a Ber Mal Ber Ist to unlock it? 1000x Infinitys made on ladder like the old Dclone spawns?

Free Conviction is gamebreaking, so remove it.


Conviction on paladin itself is useless, that doesnt make any sens.

You just want your broken warlock to keep his free fana conv amp
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Apr 15 2026 03:51pm
No Fanaticism - Faith expensive
No Concentration - Pride expensive
No Holy Frost - Ice expensive
No Holy Fire - HoJ expensive
No Holy Shock - Dream expensive
No Might - Last Wish expensive
No Blessed Aim - because we said so

You can have Vigor because Harmony is cheap and Thorns because it sucks.


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Edit: want to vote for the 20 hard proint. But i missclicked null vote. Gg

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Conviction on paladin itself is useless, that doesnt make any sens.

You just want your broken warlock to keep his free fana conv amp


You've missed the point I was making on gating Conviction. Moving on.

My only skin in the game here is I don't like act 2 mercs and enjoyed running an A5 Plague merc with a Conviction demon. The loss only means I'm back to an a2 merc holding an Infinity and Cure instead. Oh no.




Those who voted to have free conv free fana free amp from a summun are idiots.

What do barb gets ? A useless totem, must use 2 hands to use 2handed

What do necro gets ? Weak trash golems

Can continue for ages...


And these things should be addressed as well? This isn't an all or nothing scenario.
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Apr 15 2026 04:14pm
You've missed the point I was making on gating Conviction. Moving on.

My only skin in the game here is I don't like act 2 mercs and enjoyed running an A5 Plague merc with a Conviction demon. The loss only means I'm back to an a2 merc holding an Infinity and Cure instead. Oh no.






And these things should be addressed as well? This isn't an all or nothing scenario.


It just doesnt make any sens that a char can have such god qol vs another who needs 2 HRs to get it too
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Apr 15 2026 04:25pm
Why were people using a demon with conviction in the first place?

Holy freeze + amp would apply amp to the whole screen… didn’t even need conviction on warlock

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Apr 15 2026 04:33pm
Conviction is for fire and bloodboil mate.

Chaos lock - flame wave, ring of fire, apocalypse. On hell you cannot kill, you get sunder and it's very slow, so you need sunder and conviction, skills and minus fire res to score p8 tz.

Bloodboil has the physical and fire dmg component, but for p8 tz you need to pump up too.
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Apr 16 2026 01:42pm
So are we gonna take teleport from the sorc?
What about battle orders off the barb?


?? You using logic wrong. The comparable is taking those off CTA and enigma. Conviction isn't part of warlocks kit.

No Fanaticism - Faith expensive
No Concentration - Pride expensive
No Holy Frost - Ice expensive
No Holy Fire - HoJ expensive
No Holy Shock - Dream expensive
No Might - Last Wish expensive
No Blessed Aim - because we said so

You can have Vigor because Harmony is cheap and Thorns because it sucks.


If there was a single build in the game that used any of those for auras then sure. But there's not except niche garb stuff like summon nec and bowazon. Being able to create an end game power character for 1 or 20 hard points in a skill is silly.
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