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#11
Apr 14 2026 08:43pm
Max hex bane and pump black cleft, magic damage secret sauce :drool: :drool:

Yeah 120-170 points in str quite difference, for softcore

Maybe we need concentration on Bind demon and put Reapers toll or some Amplify on merc for faster proc.

This post was edited by UncleBens1650 on Apr 14 2026 08:49pm
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#12
Apr 14 2026 08:45pm
summon necro looking over and getting a good chuckle.


that was painful to watch
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#13
Apr 14 2026 08:45pm
Quote (Silenkiller @ Apr 15 2026 02:21pm)
well, its definitely behind hammerdin and light sorc now so i think they went a little overboard, id expect they will do more tweaks


I mean, people are only heavy raging because it's straight up ridic OP. Meanwhile there are a bunch of other classes/skills that have remained shite for eons, especially in comparison to what basically all trees of the Warlock is capable of.

Druid Shapeshifting/Summoning trees are laughable or incredibly niche at best.
MA Assassin (bar Moasiac making it ridic)
Basically all Barb builds even with the heavy reliance on Grief (which needs changing) are also terrible (bar some niche builds like Trav/Pit Barbs). Most barbs are just BO barbs for second accounts.
Bow zons are also mediocre and phys variants require huge investment just to be "passable".
Necros are okay but certainly not amazing, they're not fast at all. Even with heavy focus and highend gear they are still only average. Curse tree is only ever 1 point wonders.

Only really Sorcs and Palas are "competitive" or really good with good investment.

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#14
Apr 14 2026 08:47pm
If ES is hitting like a normal attack now why doesn't it proc on hit effects? Hopefully they change this because things like obedience would potentially have some early utility. Also, death should still be very cost effective for the build.
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#15
Apr 14 2026 08:48pm
Quote (Silenkiller @ Apr 14 2026 07:11pm)
Alright, decided to check this out myself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APKGEiK1O4E

Players 8

DMG - 8k-15k
CoA w (2) 40ed/8str Jewels
Ariocs w Protector
Mephistos
Enigma
Mara
2x Rando 10% fcr LL/ML/Res Rings
Laying of Hands
Tri-res Boots
Arach

CTA/Spirit Swap

MERC:
Might/Pride

Inventory - 5x Eldritch Skillers
1x Bone Break 86%

Demon: Trav demon with cursed (would not bind until I put 20 pts in and lowed HP to 15ish%)


Thoughts: Cursed still procs but not nearly as often as before.
LoH BIS/Mandatory
Once enemies are amp'd its playable but as you can see way less than before.
Protector jewel bigly useful in ariocs
125fcr probably ngmi on p8
Could add a lot of STR for more damage if u have BO barb on multibox

EDIT: After some more testing -
Archon Insight seems pretty close to Ariocs so probably still BiS
BOTD didnt see that much of an improvement to justify the tradeoffs (for me anyway)
granted i only rolled a 360% ed one

Obviously room for more damage, just slapped some random stuff together. Still playable, most def nerfed hard though.



https://i.imgur.com/Gs2L9Vv.png


hooray. the new bowazon
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#16
Apr 14 2026 09:03pm
MrLuma and most people did not really tune it to high end-game class. Skills, items etc.
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#17
Apr 14 2026 09:09pm
Quote (4nt @ Apr 14 2026 10:28pm)
The reign is over


Well said

It was only 25$ so short reign
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#18
Apr 14 2026 09:17pm
budget flame wave warlock is faster :cry:
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#19
Apr 14 2026 11:29pm
Quote (Silenkiller @ Apr 15 2026 04:11am)
Alright, decided to check this out myself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APKGEiK1O4E

Players 8

DMG - 8k-15k
CoA w (2) 40ed/8str Jewels
Ariocs w Protector
Mephistos
Enigma
Mara
2x Rando 10% fcr LL/ML/Res Rings
Laying of Hands
Tri-res Boots
Arach

CTA/Spirit Swap

MERC:
Might/Pride

Inventory - 5x Eldritch Skillers
1x Bone Break 86%

Demon: Trav demon with cursed (would not bind until I put 20 pts in and lowed HP to 15ish%)


Thoughts: Cursed still procs but not nearly as often as before.
LoH BIS/Mandatory
Once enemies are amp'd its playable but as you can see way less than before.
Protector jewel bigly useful in ariocs
125fcr probably ngmi on p8
Could add a lot of STR for more damage if u have BO barb on multibox

EDIT: After some more testing -
Archon Insight seems pretty close to Ariocs so probably still BiS
BOTD didnt see that much of an improvement to justify the tradeoffs (for me anyway)
granted i only rolled a 360% ed one

Obviously room for more damage, just slapped some random stuff together. Still playable, most def nerfed hard though.



https://i.imgur.com/Gs2L9Vv.png

Can you do the following with the arioc build: Ignore the second ES synergy and go for maxed hex:bane. After 15 hard points in bind demon, pour the rest into the bane synergies. Tell me then how the clear speed changes. Thanks in advance, don't have time atm.
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#20
Apr 14 2026 11:32pm
How is your ar so low?
And what does loh add to the mix? Damage to demons works on ptr?
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