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Apr 14 2026 02:18pm
Stop measuring your demon bind hard, it must be under 20 and SOFT or else it's too much for the conviction demon to take.
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Apr 14 2026 02:22pm
Send link to official Blizzard forums and we all go cry there as hell? Big cry wins


you can thank mr lammo and his goon fucking us over both before row and after.
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Apr 14 2026 02:22pm
Stop measuring your demon bind hard, it must be under 20 and SOFT or else it's too much for the conviction demon to take.


Requires base skill point investment to bind demons

10 – champion
15 – unique
20 – super unique


Does this not mean it requires at least 15 hard points to bind a unique with Conviction? Wasn't that the change?
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Apr 14 2026 02:23pm
Requires base skill point investment to bind demons

10 – champion
15 – unique
20 – super unique


Does this not mean it requires at least 15 hard points to bind a unique with Conviction? Wasn't that the change?


Ya but that's the easy part. The hard part is keeping it under 20 with soft points included.
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Apr 14 2026 02:24pm
it must be under 20 and SOFT


wtf
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Apr 14 2026 02:24pm
Ya but that's the easy part. The hard part is keeping it under 20 with soft points included.


umm what? where are you possibly getting that?
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Apr 14 2026 02:25pm
Ya but that's the easy part. The hard part is keeping it under 20 with soft points included.


This is correct.

Anni torch highlords puts you at 19.
Then eldritch circlet, insight, fort, rhyme or set book.

Edit: doesn’t really matter as ES is nerfed to point of struggling with p1

This post was edited by chickypoo on Apr 14 2026 02:26pm
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umm what? where are you possibly getting that?


You can have at most +4 to demon skills to bump the 15 hard points into demon bind to 19 including soft points, thereby averting the danger of automatically rerolling your bound demon's aura.
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Apr 14 2026 02:29pm
Ya but that's the easy part. The hard part is keeping it under 20 with soft points included.


Okay now I see, hunting another conviction with 15 hard and 19 total soft.
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Okay now I see, hunting another conviction with 15 hard and 19 total soft.


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