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Apr 14 2026 06:17am
How is providing physical proof meaningless? It literally gives meaning to the thing you are claiming. Without proof your claims of a deity are pure fantasy.

You know exact what is being asked of you yet you trying to weasel your way out. If a cop asks you for licence and registration you don't give him lip and engage in philosophical meta conversation about ontological rocks, epistemology, law of identity or any of the other abstract immaterial concepts. You simply provide the required proof of id or say you don't have it.

There are no other options. Stonewalling and deflecting will result in you getting arrested and or tazed.
You know you dont have any proof of your made up god so you instead want to debate in unrelated philosophical meta conversation. I suggest go start a new thread where you can explore that to your heart's content. Here you provide proof or gtfo.



I've never seen you provide proof of god. Only nitpick a meme that hurt your feeling and throw adhominems. Do better.

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These uncontructive insults won't do you any favors.
Come back when you can explain judas with 2 contradictory accounts

https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=107619089&f=119&p=688398465


There is no contradiction. 2 people seeing the same event at different times is not a contradiction.

A contradiction happens when two statements cannot both be true at the same time about the same thing in the same context. this is a Fact.

These 2 verses do not do this. It's seriously embarrassing you choose to position yourself like this online. There's no way you'd have this same conversations with people in person. Nothing but fake images and persona from you this whole time. Especially with your Logic arguments. Nothing but fake rage bait.

Scenario:

There's a concert doing the same set at 5pm and 7pm. I go to the 5pm showing and you go to the 7pm showing. Let's say the singer changes their outfit and puts down her hair during intermission and you see her perform the same set in a different outfit at a different time. We both talk about the same event, but have different details and different perspectives. Explain to me how this would be a contradiction.

Man shoots man on second floor with a witness and throws the body out a window multiple stories up and a different witness sees the impact at the bottom. 2 different witnesses, same event, different results due to the chain of events. One talks about the shooting the other about the landing. Explain to me how this is a contradiction.

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Apr 14 2026 06:45am
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Apr 14 2026 01:10pm
he is consubstantial with the Father, do you really not understand anything about Christianity yet claim it's "obviously false"?


Wow there consubstantial what now? You said jesus was god and he is not the father and wasn't talking to himself

Who was he talking to? A different god?
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Apr 14 2026 01:30pm
No, there is a time for me to sit back and read and a time to get involved. I sat and watched you and Shadowoffury go at it and I am watching you and majorblood go at it.

Every now and again you make some comment that I just have to get involved.

Now you quoted single Bible verses. All I've ever had to do is read the passage in its full context. I am going to take a guess and say you didn't do that. Am I right?


After making assumptions about Jacob and heli then later with chariot wheels debacle it is unwise to attempt further embarrassment. But you tell yourself what you need to recover.

The passages were read in full context and they have been shown how they are contradictory. Its now your job to explain how they are not. If you have to make assumptions again and invent justifications where they aren't stated then you are adding to the bible

There is no contradiction. 2 people seeing the same event at different times is not a contradiction.

A contradiction happens when two statements cannot both be true at the same time about the same thing in the same context. this is a Fact.

These 2 verses do not do this. It's seriously embarrassing you choose to position yourself like this online. There's no way you'd have this same conversations with people in person. Nothing but fake images and persona from you this whole time. Especially with your Logic arguments. Nothing but fake rage bait.

Scenario:

There's a concert doing the same set at 5pm and 7pm. I go to the 5pm showing and you go to the 7pm showing. Let's say the singer changes their outfit and puts down her hair during intermission and you see her perform the same set in a different outfit at a different time. We both talk about the same event, but have different details and different perspectives. Explain to me how this would be a contradiction.

Man shoots man on second floor with a witness and throws the body out a window multiple stories up and a different witness sees the impact at the bottom. 2 different witnesses, same event, different results due to the chain of events. One talks about the shooting the other about the landing. Explain to me how this is a contradiction.


The entire story has to match. In the murder example you gave the time, place and other elements have to line up also. Do you know how criminal cases even work? There is a very thorough investigation dna samples, blood splatter analysis, gun residue, etc. Bible is fishy and riddled with very contradictory stories that don't line up. Christian apologists are desperately grasping at tiniest straws trying to make the contradictions fit with eleborate explanations and assumptions.

If the bible said 2+2 = 4 in one chapter and 2+2=5 in the next you would find a way to rationalize it.

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Apr 14 2026 02:05pm
Wow there consubstantial what now? You said jesus was god and he is not the father and wasn't talking to himself

Who was he talking to? A different god?


in essence... please do some basic homework on Christianity
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Apr 14 2026 02:38pm
If the bible said 2+2 = 4 in one chapter and 2+2=5 in the next you would find a way to rationalize it.


If the bible said 2+2 = 4 in one chapter and 2+2=5 in the next wouldn’t you agree with it on account of you don’t believe in logic?

Heh
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Apr 14 2026 02:42pm
in essence... please do some basic homework on Christianity


In other words you can't explain it yourself.

As far as I understand your confusing god he has 3 parts but essentially it's all one god. So not sure how you Jesus is God and can't be talking to himself.

Either he is a schitzo with multiple personality disorder or he is talking to another god
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Apr 14 2026 02:49pm
In other words you can't explain it yourself.

As far as I understand your confusing god he has 3 parts but essentially it's all one god. So not sure how you Jesus is God and can't be talking to himself.

Either he is a schitzo with multiple personality disorder or he is talking to another god


God doesn't have three parts, you heretic. You constantly show zero understanding of Christianity and logic in every post you make
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Apr 14 2026 02:49pm
After making assumptions about Jacob and heli then later with chariot wheels debacle it is unwise to attempt further embarrassment. But you tell yourself what you need to recover.

The passages were read in full context and they have been shown how they are contradictory. Its now your job to explain how they are not. If you have to make assumptions again and invent justifications where they aren't stated then you are adding to the bible



The entire story has to match. In the murder example you gave the time, place and other elements have to line up also. Do you know how criminal cases even work? There is a very thorough investigation dna samples, blood splatter analysis, gun residue, etc. Bible is fishy and riddled with very contradictory stories that don't line up. Christian apologists are desperately grasping at tiniest straws trying to make the contradictions fit with eleborate explanations and assumptions.

If the bible said 2+2 = 4 in one chapter and 2+2=5 in the next you would find a way to rationalize it.


'atheists dig a unknown tooth out of the ground. they dont know what it is so it must be from a transitional monkey man, nebraska man (Hesperopithecus haroldcookii)
later it was found out it was a pigs tooth.
just so we know were we are at.
the people that wont say chit about that (the 'atheist) are supposdlythe authority on scripture .................. hee haw

they figured this out from a pigs tooth......................... hee haw
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Apr 14 2026 02:50pm
If the bible said 2+2 = 4 in one chapter and 2+2=5 in the next wouldn’t you agree with it on account of you don’t believe in logic?

Heh


:rofl:

After making assumptions about Jacob and heli then later with chariot wheels debacle it is unwise to attempt further embarrassment. But you tell yourself what you need to recover.

The passages were read in full context and they have been shown how they are contradictory. Its now your job to explain how they are not. If you have to make assumptions again and invent justifications where they aren't stated then you are adding to the bible



The entire story has to match. In the murder example you gave the time, place and other elements have to line up also. Do you know how criminal cases even work? There is a very thorough investigation dna samples, blood splatter analysis, gun residue, etc. Bible is fishy and riddled with very contradictory stories that don't line up. Christian apologists are desperately grasping at tiniest straws trying to make the contradictions fit with eleborate explanations and assumptions.

If the bible said 2+2 = 4 in one chapter and 2+2=5 in the next you would find a way to rationalize it.


Deliberate dodge.

Bible still has zero contradictions, but keep trying I guess.
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