You are intentionally misrepresenting the argument even after multiple corrections. No one here in this thread believes universe came from nothing other than the christians.
This is malicious intent to deceive.

You will probably go through several stages of grief when you realize there is no magician up in the clouds and that jesus was a nice story but he isn't coming back because he never existed in the first place. Once you have gone through the withdrawal symptoms come back and we can talk about how you can live without an imaginary friend.

It's clear you didn't read the mature conversation him and I had all the way through. Him and I have learned where we each stand with our beliefs. We each asked questions and made our point after learning one another's perspective. I can respect him for speaking clearly about his view and why he felt the way he felt. A civil and refreshing conversation.

Something you haven't done once in this thread.

Also Christians do not believe the world came from nothing lol.

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No one asked about your feelings or what you consider is a mature conversation.

You are intentionally and maliciously making arguments that the world came from nothing. Even after people told you repeatedly that is not their argument or something they believe in. Yet here you are once again putting words in people's mouth.
Then you have the gall to talk about mature conversation.

Also Christians believe god created the world out of nothing its like the first words in the bible.
Genesis 1:2 "Now the earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep"

#48 – The Timing of Jesus’ Temple Cleansing: Early or Late?
In John (2:13-16), this dramatic event occurs early in Jesus’ ministry, shortly after his first miracle at the wedding in Cana. John uses this event to underscore Jesus’ divine authority and mission right from the start.

The Synoptic Gospels, however, place the temple cleansing near the end of Jesus’ ministry, during the final week of his life (Mark 11:15-17; Matthew 21:12-13; Luke 19:45-46). In these accounts, the cleansing is a catalyst for the events leading to Jesus’ arrest and crucifixion.

#49 – Who Went to Jesus’ Tomb?
It only seems natural to end our journey through the contradictions in the Bible by looking at the central element of Christianity: Jesus’ death and resurrection. These examples have been discussed for decades, even centuries, and are best explained in Bart Ehrman’s insightful and already mentioned book Jesus Interrupted.

A well-known contradiction involves the identities of those who visited Jesus’ tomb on Easter morning. John 20:1 mentions Mary Magdalene alone, while Matthew 28:1 lists Mary Magdalene and “the other Mary.” Mark 16:1 adds a third woman, Salome, to the group. Luke 24:1 expands it further to include Mary Magdalene, Joanna, Mary the mother of James, and “other women.”

#50 – Where Did the Disciples Go After the Resurrection?
A final example concerns Jesus’ post-resurrection instructions to his disciples and their immediate actions. In Luke’s Gospel (24:49-53), Jesus explicitly tells his disciples to stay in Jerusalem until they are “clothed with power from on high,” referring to the coming of the Holy Spirit at Pentecost.

In contrast, Matthew 28:10, 16-20 records Jesus instructing his disciples to go to Galilee, where they meet him on a mountain and receive the Great Commission: “Go and make disciples of all nations.”

I didn't put words in anyone's mouth lol.

I asked questions to find out answers and him and I achieved those results. You should just let him and I continue our conversation together as you are not on the same page.

Christians believe God has always existed so no, Christians do not believe in the idea of nothing. If nothing was the case then God never existed.

You and I have nothing to discuss addone. God is real and I realize that truth. You don't believe in God. So that's where it will stay.

#48 – The Timing of Jesus’ Temple Cleansing
It is not a contradiction because many scholars argue Jesus could have cleansed the temple twice—once early (as in Gospel of John) and once later (as in the Synoptic Gospels)—or that the authors arranged events thematically rather than strictly chronologically.

#49 – Who Went to Jesus’ Tomb
These accounts are not contradictory because each Gospel writer (e.g., Gospel of John, Gospel of Matthew, Gospel of Mark, Gospel of Luke) highlights different individuals present, with John focusing on Mary Magdalene without excluding the others mentioned elsewhere.

#50 – Where Did the Disciples Go After the Resurrection
This is not a contradiction because Jesus could have instructed the disciples to both remain in Jerusalem temporarily (as in Gospel of Luke) and later go to Galilee (as in Gospel of Matthew), describing different moments rather than mutually exclusive commands.

Moving on to the next.

Then what are you doing here?

This is not a discussion about feelings or exchanging beliefs holding hands around the campfire. This thread about being able to prove those beliefs with facts, logic and hard evidence. If you've come empty handed then this isn't a thread for you. Maybe try the echo chamber in christian sub where people are not allowed to disagree.

If it wasn't a discussion about feelings then you wouldn't of made the thread. A public thread let me remind you. Everyone on this has the freedom to post. If you did not want anyone sharing their thoughts/counters then you wouldn't put yourself in a position to receive them freely.

In order for you to disprove God you must first prove the existence of the world as God is the one who created it. 1837 posts in and you have yet to prove otherwise.

You feel God isn't real and the evidence behind Science, Math, Physics, and the Bible show otherwise.

its just extraordinary how bad this stuff is. the biggest problem with it is how boring it is. your trying to get a win by putting everyone into a catatonic state
since we wernt there all you need is a plausible explanation.
mary showed up alone
then was joined by the other mary
then other women showed up and joined the party

remember the trick
if stories dont match close enough then its a contradiction
and if they match to close its plagiarism

#48 - argument from authority. Could have =/= did. Using could of, would of, should of isn't disproving the contradiction you are just making assumptions and hoping its not a contradiction.

#49 by not mentioning other people who visited the empty tomb the reader is left but to read as if there were no other. If the writers mentioned there were multiple people but only named some of them we would know for certain that its not a contradiction but because they failed to clarify you are just assuming there were others. Another helpful distinction would be Mary came in at 6.15am then followed her was Salome at 7am. But bible loves being vague and non specific. Thats a feature that way it has an out when things don't go according to plan.

#50 see #48[/QUOTE]

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