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Apr 9 2026 05:16pm
I used to think this too, but turns out, this is a huge misconception.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZT8vDnWC5UQ

Looks to me like fanaticism is spreading the curse just fine here. And if there is any marginal increase from holy freeze, I’d argue it’s completely negated by the benefits of fanaticism aura.


there's a difference when you're teleporting, especially if you're using a large stacked minion such as urdar/lister/stygian hag. I find they do not proc amp reliably until you move and they start aggro'ing and attacking. For medium minions that don't stack, it's not so bad, perhaps slightly worse than holy aura such as heph and lancer. For minions with ranged spells, such as venom lord, tainted, council member, they cast amp reliably with or without holy aura.

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Apr 9 2026 05:18pm
Or spend 10min trying to convert a undead. You can turn one of those things that spawn little things. Kinda fun.
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Apr 9 2026 05:19pm
I used to think this too, but turns out, this is a huge misconception.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZT8vDnWC5UQ
Looks to me like fanaticism is spreading the curse just fine here. And if there is any marginal increase from holy freeze, I’d argue it’s completely negated by the benefits of fanaticism aura.


Cursed gives monsters a 75% chance to cast amplify damage on every target they damage. That includes the AOE of amp damage, increasing by level, hence a 75% chance to hit a big aoe. And a 25% chance to whiff on each attack, or if that attack is blocked or missed. When you have holy damage auras, that 75% chance to cast amp damage is rolled on every target hit by the holy damage every pulse, which shotguns the aoes to redundantly apply it, hence if aura hits 10 clumped monsters there's a 99.999999% chance you'll apply amp damage to all of them. And against bosses who can have 50% block and your demon might only have ~80-90% chance to hit after high level and defense, the holy pulses can more reliably apply amp faster. Except holy freeze does not hit act bosses, while holy fire/shock do.
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my mom and my stepdad is controlling. they accuse me of shitting in the bed even though it was the dog. the dog smeared it in the bed and i had to lay in it. my mom and my stepdad was controlling. wont let me have green ice cream and wont let me have dairy products. let me know your opinion
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Apr 9 2026 06:35pm
you have never had a multi shot fanat cursed demon. you will never know the luxury i am experiencing so you cant speak on behalf of it


bet my holyfreeze, cursed, extra strong, extra fast and special hit urdar would fuck him over like nothing.


Ok but my dad is stronger than both of your dads in 1v2
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Apr 9 2026 09:25pm
All you need is extra fast + cursed..... aura + anything else is overrated
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Apr 9 2026 09:37pm
cute , but u should give it a try on matron's spear girl with fana cursed , she jab harder than full geared emilio :rofl:
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Apr 9 2026 10:00pm
cute , but u should give it a try on matron's spear girl with fana cursed , she jab harder than full geared emilio :rofl:


even better than her is sabrina the battle maid from the ruined temple

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Apr 9 2026 10:46pm
Cursed(amp) / Aura(fanat) / multiple shots
I have a fucking zealer following me
https://i.imgur.com/lvbXGcS.png


Not a fan of Fana. Also not a Fan of Vilehand - although I also always get him as a first temp when I mistakenly eat up my demon.

Vilehand is weak and lazy, thats why I dont like him. Also Fana Aura doesnt really do much. I personally think Holy Fire in #1. Its spreads Curse onto the whole screen in a millisecond. Holy Shock is #2. Almost as good, but lesser pulse radius. Holy Freeze actually slows me down by slowing my enemies down and also fucks up my horks, so thats a no.

This post was edited by Kaltrato on Apr 9 2026 10:47pm
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would charsi sry
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