Yes and I stand by that. Kant was no scientist and Einstein also made no claims to back up Christianity or the bible or god.

Since it seems like the opinions of Einstein are important to you, let me also quote him. I usually wouldnt do that, because personal individual opinions without any evidence behind them dont matter to me, but since you started this quota nonsense. Here's also Einstein:

“The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honorable but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish.”

Here another one:

“I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly.”

Theres more, but lets leave it there.

This post was edited by Kaltrato on Apr 9 2026 03:54pm

So any individual can't have more than one job? You say he wasn't a scientist, but he recognized as one. I guess I should just believe you over his actual title. Kant was a scientist and a philosopher.

I just showed you a quote that Einstein made himself. "I want to know how God created this world". I also never stated he was Christian. He did however believe in Jesus and his existence, just didn't see him as his savior or a deity. He believed in Spinoza's God.

Idk how you are still stuck on this conversation.

I will say this again. I only ever started quoting literal quotes from scientists to correct your incorrect statement. What was originally important to me was asking you what you believed in and why you believed in it. You ran down this rabbit hole as deep as it is because of my stance with Science, Math and Physics stating that every material effect must have an adequate cause, which all include studies that determine this idea.

I then tell you my trust is in the bible. I trust Jesus as my savior and believe in God who he called father as the reason for everything. The beginning and the end. All of this modern world discussion is the last of my concerns, but I'm simply discussing these topics because that is where you are at and I'm meeting you in that place. You have no interest in talking about God and I have no interest in having faith in this idea that I can only trust modern technology to answer all my questions because it can't possibly answer this question on how everything came to be. I also have my own personal experience with the lord and you will not change that. Nobody on this Earth will move my faith away from Jesus, period.

This post was edited by D_urRRR on Apr 9 2026 04:04pm

Could say the same to you. You dont know what to do with this whole conversation and start to quote some peoples personal opinions.

Einstein didnt believe in Jesus, he believed that this person, as a normal human being, historically existed. Thats it. Snd yes, he believed in Spinoza's God, which isnt a god in the sense you believe on a god.

Heres another Einstein quote about that:

“I believe in Spinoza’s God who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with fates and actions of human beings.”

Make if that what you will.

Kant was living in the 18th century. He never made any experiements at all, we would call him a metaphysisist today maybe? What he did was thinking and arguing. He was certainly smart, one of the smartest guys to ever walk the earth probably. A very important philosopher, I am a big fan of him actually. Still, he would not be called scientist today.

I'm gonna let you catch up because you are saying things to me that I've already stated.

Lmk when you've caught up.

I go to bed, buddy. May god be with you and may nothingness, randomness and the sad insignificance of human existence be with me. See you tomorrow.

Goodnight buddy, God bless you.

Once again I can simply quote a Bible verse.

Psalm 14:1 ESV

The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.”
They are corrupt, they do abominable deeds;
there is none who does good.

nobody is more religious then you are