No one knows where we are in the universe, doesnt matter who says it. You believe stuff when it suits you and dismiss it whennit doesnt.

We would have to know the measurements of the universe to make a än educated guess about out location in it.

No one knows if anywhere in the universe anything might be able or was ever able to just appear out of nothing. Also no one ever asked that question, or better said, tried to prove or disprove that in any scientific context. Also it doesnt matter at all for this topic. The moment you say a creator could just always have been there, the same can said about anything else we dont know about as well. Its just nonsensical to say something isnt possible(without knowing if thats actually true) and therefor a creator exists.

So you believe something can occur from a state of nothing?

Also here's a list of very well known scientists that do in fact, believe in God since you these none have ever believed in a state of eternal.

Isaac Newton – Deeply religious; wrote extensively on theology alongside physics.

Johannes Kepler – Saw his scientific work as uncovering God’s design of the universe.

Galileo Galilei – Practicing Catholic who believed science and faith could coexist.

Blaise Pascal – Strong Christian faith; known for “Pascal’s Wager.”

Michael Faraday – Devout Christian; his faith influenced his scientific ethics.

James Clerk Maxwell – Christian who saw harmony between science and belief.

Francis Collins – Led the Human Genome Project; openly Christian and wrote The Language of God.

John Polkinghorne – Quantum physicist who became an Anglican priest.

Owen Gingerich – Practicing Christian and historian of science.

Jennifer Wiseman – Works at NASA and speaks about science and faith compatibility.

Ard Louis – Theoretical physicist and Christian thinker.

Denis Alexander – Advocate for harmony between evolution and Christianity.

Where did I say that I believe that? If you start like that why would I read any further?

You do realize the point of the question is to learn what you believe in right? Based off your previous response it implied something could come from nothing we just haven't discovered that possibility.

You could however, just answer the question simply instead of doing this big loop around with every response. We aren't even discussing God right now and you are still struggling to respond to these questions clearly.

I'll ask again, so you believe something can come from nothing? (Science, physics, and math show this isn't possible).

Let me ask you something. Do you think that you always either have to believe or not believe something? Is that your worldview?

You have yet again, avoided the question. Since you can't communicate with others on your stance of anything then we will move on. Idk why you are so bothered by putting the spotlight on you...

My view is that we should put our faith and decision making in things of value, worth and truth. That's my starting place. I believe in love rather than hate because one brings good while the other brings evil. I believe in forgiveness because it's weight on your shoulders that have nothing to do with your individual life and holds no authority over your soul. I believe in being the best father and husband that I can be. I believe in civil disagreement because each and every person adds value to the conversation when it's approached with an open mind and the goal of finding a solution. I could go on and on about how I value things that bring life to the situation, rather than death to the situation. I'm here responding to you with the open mind of exploring why you feel the way you feel, but you refuse to go into detail and fully disagree with why I feel the way I feel. I do not support one sided scenarios like that. It goes nowhere....

I gave my life to Jesus at the age of 21 and my life before that accident and after is very clear of a divine intervention.

Now that I see the truth of the gospel I now see the truth over our world and the bible accounts for literally everything. Show me something fruitful and I can apply Jesus to it. Show me something horrible and evil and I can apply Jesus to it. It's the only thing that accounts for it all and after faith and personal experience in my walk with Jesus I will absolutely put him first in everything because of how different my life is because of it.

I've been in your shoes and I'll never go back.

My stance is that I dont think there was ever nothing. Thats my stance. So your question about nothing is not doing anything for me at all. Your line of questioning is so stupid that its hard to engage in any fruitful conversation. Your whole argument, if one wants to call it that way, is just assumptions that turned into conviction for you. You live a wasted live that you "gave to Jesus" whatever that means. You gave it to someone, you imagine exists somewhere.

This post was edited by Kaltrato on Apr 9 2026 11:17am

i just demonstrated 'atheists are a bunch of clowns and should be publicly mocked. your objections of desperation have been noted

I gave my life to the one that gave me my life.

That is not a waste.

So you believe there was never "nothing". I think that's fantastic and we agree on that foundation. So you just aren't really sure where to go past that belief?