He's not necessarily wrong though.
In other words it's likely better to deal with devil you know than the devil you don't. The devil was willing to sign a deal, like it did in the past with obama, but that was never the point of the war to begin with. Now whatever is being signed, or agreed to, in islamabad can be ignored because all diplomacy with the US and Israel is null and void because there's absolutely no reason to trust them in upholding whatever bargain that's made anyway unless a massive deterent is given to iran in case israel or US breaks the peace.

i'll trust Israeli "intelligence" the first time i see it's actually predicted something.

shouldn't you be crushing babies in Lebanon not posting on jsp? or are you more of the watch out will your fellow prison guard violates a prisoner type of "soldier"?

That’s exactly what Neville Chamberlain thought in 1938. He decided to deal with the 'devil he knew' and came back from Munich waving a signed contract promising 'peace for our time.' All it did was give that devil the time and resources to start a global catastrophe. History shows that signing a deal with a bad actor isn't diplomacy; it's a countdown



Israel doesnt target babies we are not Hamas

Exactly. A countdown until israel or the us bombs again. That's why a heavy deterent must be in place to prevent them from attacking again once a peace deal is signed.

Israel indeed targets civilians. There's no question about that. Just now in the news that israel bombed a family house in lebanon wiping out 3 generations of 1 family incl a 5 year old girl and her pregnant mother.

Deterrence what? Israel didn't start a revolution in 1979 based on the destruction of Iran. It’s hard to claim you need a 'deterrent' when you’re the one who spent 45 years building a ring of terror proxies around your enemy. Chamberlain learned the hard way that when someone tells you they want to destroy you, you should believe them not give them a 'deterrent' so they can finish the job safely.

Tragedies in war are horrific, but using them to dodge the strategic point doesn't change the history. The reason there is a front in Lebanon at all is because Iran’s proxy, Hezbollah, decided to turn civilian villages into launchpads. Israel didn't wake up in 1979 or last October wanting a war with Lebanon. If you want to talk about 'wiping out generations,' look at the regime that uses Lebanese and Palestinian families as human shields for their 'deterrent.

Exactly! So when Netanyahu and Ben G'vir and Smotrich says that all palestinains are animals and that they will murder and displace them, we need to believe them and we need to stop them. Point taken.

Israel started this war and is now opportunistically using it as an excuse to take more land and is removing and murdering innocent people to achieve this goal. When Netanyahu says that "greater israel" is very "dear to his heart" we should believe him.

There is a fundamental difference between the rhetoric of a few cabinet ministers in a loud democracy and the non-negotiable state doctrine of a totalitarian regime. Netanyahu and Ben Gvir face an electorate, a supreme court, and a public that has spent a year in the streets protesting them. In contrast, 'Death to Israel' isn’t a political 'opinion' in Iran; it’s the religious foundation of a regime that has spent 45 years not just six months building a 'Ring of Fire' via proxies.

To say 'Israel started this war' is a total rewrite of history. Did Israel force Hamas to cross the border on October 7th? Did Israel force Hezbollah to start firing rockets on October 8th?

There's absolutely no difference because the actions of these people have left 100s of thousands DEAD and or maimed. So the tragic consequences far outweighs whatever electorate system israel has and it needs to be stopped and if not by the common good of israelis citizens going to the street to throw out and overturn this demonic regime then by force in my opinion because it's now clear that israel will not stop before their greater israel is created.

Israel did start this war. It's not a rewrite it's plain and simple facts. By this war i mean the current one with Iran.
Oct 7 is israels own fault. Your prime minister paid and funded well knowing that the money was going to used to hurt israel and it was the very people that then attacked israel and it's people who have been displaced, mistreated and brutalized for generations so ofc they will revolt there's no other option for them.

before his death the Khamenei explained in a lot more detail what "death to israel" and "death to USA" mean, specifically. and they didn't mean death to the women and children. but Ben Gvir when asked what he means in context for Gazans responds openly that it does include women and children. that there are no innocents in Gaza. that they all must die or leave.

so Iran's statements are more brash, but when explained are more tempered. Israelis evoke biblical stories, then when asked confirm they mean biblical punishments.

talk about a rewrite of history Israeli's in charge of your country want to repeat ancient history.

You both have no idea what your’e talking about.
People die in war there is a difference between trying to annihilate



The mental gymnastics here are incredible. You blame Israel for 'funding' Hamas effectively blaming the victim for the massacre of its own people yet you give a total pass to the regime in Tehran that actually arms, trains, and directs them. If Israel is responsible for trying to buy quiet, then Iran is a thousand times more responsible for providing the bullets.

You say 'Israel started this.' Really? Israel didn’t force the IRGC to spend 45 years building a proxy 'Ring of Fire' around its borders. Israel didn't force Hezbollah to start rainining rockets on October 8th in a war they weren't even part of. That was an unprovoked Iranian choice to escalate a regional conflict

You’re hyper-focused on the rhetoric of a few Israeli ministers while ignoring the 45-year reality of Iranian expansionism. One side has a loud, messy democracy with a public that actually protests its government; the other is a totalitarian theocracy that hangs its own people for wanting the same freedoms. If you’re truly worried about 'demonic regimes' and 'wiping out generations,' look at the one that uses Lebanese, Gazan, and Yemeni lives as expendable pawns to protect a regime in Tehran that wouldn't dream of sending its own sons to the front lines




Taking Khamenei’s 'tempered' explanation of 'Death to Israel' at face value while ignoring 40,000 rockets launched by his proxies is the definition of being a 'useful idiot.' It doesn’t matter what a dictator says in a scripted interview to appease Western ears; it matters what he puts in the crates he sends to Hezbollah and the Houthis.

He explained lol do you hear yourself
You burning your brain with hatred…

This post was edited by Many_Names on Apr 9 2026 11:08am