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Apr 8 2026 12:08pm
Iran and the US/Israel side disagree on whether the ceasefire deal included a pause on attacks against Hezbollah or not. Like snipa said, they probably didn't explicitly spell it out, so there's room for interpretation.

In the end, the success or failure of such ceasefires is typically determined by the stance of the belligerents: do they actually want peace, or do they not? I think it's safe to assume that none of the three sides in this conflict actually wants peace - but a little pause would have served the US and Iran to regroup and replenish, whereas Israel doesn't want to stop its momentum in Lebanon.


Whats your opinion on WHY the US has attacked Iran? I dont mind giving mine, if you want that first.
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Apr 8 2026 12:16pm
Israel is fucking Lebanon up right now 😂

They poke the bear with these little attacks and then cry when Israel fucks them up.
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Apr 8 2026 12:18pm
Whats your opinion on WHY the US has attacked Iran? I dont mind giving mine, if you want that first.


Hostilities had already been surging for weeks before the actual warfare began. Trump really increased the pressure on Iran and basically signalled "we won't tolerate you obtaining the bomb, and this time, we're dead serious about it". Iran's response to the American demands to give up their nuclear ambitions was an unambiguous "no", wrapped in some rosy diplomatic language. From that point on, they were on a collision course.

The actual outbreak was probably led by Israel; as far as I understand it, the US rushed into military action before they were fully ready because the Israelis were hell-bent on striking, so the Americans went along. But this doesn't mean that the Israelis dragged the US into this war. After Iran's insistence to stick to its nuclear program, a US strike was coming either way. I just think the Pentagon wanted to prepare a bit longer.

Now... the big question is "why now?" Why did Trump and his administration feel this sudden urge to tackle the longterm issue of Iran's nuclear ambitions specifically in early 2026? Honestly, I have no idea.



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Hostilities had already been surging for weeks before the actual warfare began. Trump really increased the pressure on Iran and basically signalled "we won't tolerate you obtaining the bomb, and this time, we're dead serious about it". Iran's response to the American demands to give up their nuclear ambitions was an unambiguous "no", wrapped in some rosy diplomatic language. From that point on, they were on a collision course.

The actual outbreak was probably led by Israel; as far as I understand it, the US rushed into military action before they were fully ready because the Israelis were hell-bent on striking, so the Americans went along. But this doesn't mean that the Israelis dragged the US into this war. After Iran's insistence to stick to its nuclear program, a US strike was coming either way. I just think the Pentagon wanted to prepare a bit longer.

Now... the big question is "why now?" Why did Trump and his administration feel this sudden urge to tackle the longterm issue of Iran's nuclear ambitions specifically in early 2026? Honestly, I have no idea.



What's your opinion on all of this?


Its actually the opposite trump wanted to attack earlier during the protest it was Israel that stopped US from going because Israel wasnt ready yet.
And the US had much less forces back than
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Apr 8 2026 01:32pm
You can see who is always pushing lies in this post ... Everything I stated is being proven right ..From the very start of this post..My sources are better i guess

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GU36l5S_dgg

I said this at the start.. Israel gave guns to protestors and they lied about the number of protestors killed by the regime... weeks later new york times break the story..not 80k not 30k but 3-7k lol ... While some here just repeated the propaganda ..I was right again..


Yup, they weren't even protestors as they were armed, they were armed rebels engaging in violent insurrection and wanton murder.
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Its actually the opposite trump wanted to attack earlier during the protest it was Israel that stopped US from going because Israel wasnt ready yet.
And the US had much less forces back than


"iran is weeks away from a nuke" - bibi, every month, for 40 years.

"wait wait, my shoes aren't tied yet" - bibi, also.
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Apr 8 2026 03:33pm
Hostilities had already been surging for weeks before the actual warfare began. Trump really increased the pressure on Iran and basically signalled "we won't tolerate you obtaining the bomb, and this time, we're dead serious about it". Iran's response to the American demands to give up their nuclear ambitions was an unambiguous "no", wrapped in some rosy diplomatic language. From that point on, they were on a collision course.

The actual outbreak was probably led by Israel; as far as I understand it, the US rushed into military action before they were fully ready because the Israelis were hell-bent on striking, so the Americans went along. But this doesn't mean that the Israelis dragged the US into this war. After Iran's insistence to stick to its nuclear program, a US strike was coming either way. I just think the Pentagon wanted to prepare a bit longer.

Now... the big question is "why now?" Why did Trump and his administration feel this sudden urge to tackle the longterm issue of Iran's nuclear ambitions specifically in early 2026? Honestly, I have no idea.



What's your opinion on all of this?


Under Obama’s nuclear deal, Iran agreed to limit enrichment, reduce uranium stockpiles, cap centrifuges, modify key reactors, and allow comprehensive IAEA inspections, effectively keeping its nuclear program peaceful. Donald Trump unilaterally broke that deal. Donald Trump then bombed Iran last year, even after his own intelligence told him that Iran was not building a bomb. He then bombed them again this year and started this war, we can both agree that it is highly likely that this was led by Israel. When you say this doesn't mean that the Israelis dragged the US into this war, my response is that that your position is inconsistent.

My position is that Israel wanted to strike Iran again, after striking Iran last year, they needed time to build up their weapons again, once they did that they were ready. They were not keen on negotiations between Trump and Iran and forced the US hand, in my opinion. We can Agree or Disagree on this, I don't care.

Next Question, if thats OK, What do you think is the US and Israel's Goal here ? This time I will state my position: the US and Israeli goal is to mow the lawn - degrade Iran's nuclear technology and military ability, i.e. not a final solution, just a delaying tactic deferring their "problem" for another few years.

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Under Obama’s nuclear deal, Iran agreed to limit enrichment, reduce uranium stockpiles, cap centrifuges, modify key reactors, and allow comprehensive IAEA inspections, effectively keeping its nuclear program peaceful.


The crux is how well this deal was actually working, how effective it actually was at keeping Iran's nuclear capabilities at bay. Those politicians, in Washington but also in the EU, who were politically beholden to the Iran Nuclear Deal kept insisting that the Iranian side was fully cooperative, others disagreed heavily. It's been a long time, I don't remember every last detail, but the notion that Iran was telling the truth back then is highly doubtful in my mind. Of fucking course they were striving for the bomb.

Anyway, another part of the deal with Iran was that they promised to keep their ballistic missiles limited to a range of 2000km - and we know for a fact that these promises were a lie. Two weeks ago, they launched ballistic missiles at the remote Diego Garcia base (loaned by the US from the UK) in the Indian Ocean, some 3800km away from mainland Iran. This range would put most of the European capitals inside the range of Iran's missiles. So they undoubtedly lied about the range of their missiles, but we're supposed to belief that they were fully truthful and cooperative with regard to their nuclear program?



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Next Question, if thats OK, What do you think is the US and Israel's Goal here ? This time I will state my position: the US and Israeli goal is to mow the lawn - degrade Iran's nuclear technology and military ability, i.e. not a final solution, just a delaying tactic deferring their "problem" for another few years.


Agreed. The window of opportunity for regime change in Teheran was missed when the US didn't take action while the mass protests inside Iran were going on and were violently crushed. Now, the best they can hope for is to neuter the Iranian threat for a couple of years and basically kick this can down the road once again.

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Apr 8 2026 08:55pm
Someone made a 9-figure trade shorting oil before Trump announced cease fire

Don really wanted to TACO and these insider info trades may be a huge reason
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