Quote (addone @ Apr 8 2026 02:48pm)

How is it better to die than to kill your friend and eat him? Your friend is dying regardless you kill him or not, he sustained mortal injury and is in excruciating pain. He is begging you to end his life how is it better for you to not kill him? Instead of mercy kill you going to watch as your friend suffers until he expires. That's thats not better its sadistic. Also if you don't eat your friend you too will die and suffer. Instead of making the most of a bad situation you are giving up. Thats pathetic and selfish.

Reason and logic are axiomatic tools that cannot be justified or explained from a position outside of themselves. If you use reason to justify reason then it becomes a circular reasoning like when christians claim the bible is true because the bible said it's true.

You didn't answer my question why should it? And if so why should it be your particular god that you just so happen to believe in. Thats literally making a preference and wanting it to be yours.

Quote (CPK001 @ Apr 8 2026 07:59pm)

Wrong again. You read the Bible and then you fact check it with the realities of the world. This is why creation and the world today declares the Majesty of The LORD. Do you even remember when we said that you were proof of God because Scripture described people like you exactly?

The Bible talks about people who exchange the truth of God for a lie and declaring themselves wise, they became fools. Not to mention that a fool in his heart says that there is no God.

What about serving 2 Masters? Could you ever do that? The Bible says plain and simple that you cannot serve both God and Money as you would be devoted to one and despise the other. Isn't that right Mr "The Church are not getting a single cent of my hard earned money."

The Bible is very confronting as it calls you out directly, time and time again. Read the Bible and fact check it with the realities of the world, instead of declaring fake news. Anyone can make a claim but be prepared to make your defence so it holds up.

Whether you believe it or not I have challenged the Bible so many times and from every angle. Each and every time, the claims have held up. When it comes to the other Religions where you have to work for salvation all I need to do is ask 1-2 questions and nobody can give an answer.

The Bible has proven to be much more trustworthy than you will ever be.

Quote (addone @ Apr 8 2026 03:23am)

All these words and no proof in sight.

Tell you what the second jesus shows up to corroborate your wild accusations the second I'll retract this thread and become a believer. If he doesn't within 7 business days then you apologize and denounce your fake religion.
Are you willing to take that offer or are you going to be a coward? Lets me see how much faith you really got.

Take my offer and let others be witness

Inb4 dodge

Quote (addone @ Apr 8 2026 06:23am)

All these words and no proof in sight.

Tell you what the second jesus shows up to corroborate your wild accusations the second I'll retract this thread and become a believer. If he doesn't within 7 business days then you apologize and denounce your fake religion.
Are you willing to take that offer or are you going to be a coward? Lets me see how much faith you really got.

Take my offer and let others be witness

Inb4 dodge

Quote (addone @ Apr 8 2026 12:48am)

Saying morality is objective without how its objective isnt an argument.

I didn't call your choice wrong I called it pathetic and selfish. I personally avoid using morality or Black and white thinking because everything is relative barring a few exceptions. Yesterday's right is today's wrong and vice versa. There is only conditional morality. Killing is wrong unless its (insert condition).

Real world doesn't care about your opinions or morals. Your body and your empty stomach doesn't care about what is right and wrong it cares about getting fed. Morality is nothing more than a social tool to navigate how to get fed and not die while maintaining cohesiveness of the tribe. Because a healthy tribe ensures the body continues to get fed in the future. So in a way morals are tied to survival and wellbeing. That is probably the only grounding they have but that isn't Morality its more of which actions increase our survival and how can we make them even better.

Morality was invented for simpletons who either can't think or don't want to think for themselves. Much easier to tell people whats good or bad then having to ponder the nuance of every decision. Then the church tried to ground their preferences to their god to prevent people raising questions. Then they used special religious scholars to pose as officious bridgekeepers of the word. Only the church can interpret what god wants. These are all control tactics of the cult. Moral grounding is a scam to get you to turn your brain off and open your wallet.

Quote (TiStuff @ Apr 8 2026 10:59pm)

you would just lie about it

Quote (addone @ Apr 8 2026 08:23pm)

All these words and no proof in sight.

Tell you what the second jesus shows up to corroborate your wild accusations the second I'll retract this thread and become a believer. If he doesn't within 7 business days then you apologize and denounce your fake religion.
Are you willing to take that offer or are you going to be a coward? Lets me see how much faith you really got.

Take my offer and let others be witness

Inb4 dodge

Quote (CPK001 @ Apr 9 2026 11:02am)

That's all you can say, "That's not proof." That is a pathetic excuse when you can't give an answer.

You are asking me to put the LORD God to the test. I will obey the LORD before I entertain any of your meaningless and sinful desires.

Deuteronomy 6:16 ESV

"You shall not put the Lord your God to the test, as you tested him at Massah."

That shows I have a lot of faith.

Quote (addone @ Apr 8 2026 08:11pm)

LOL was ez.

Bible: just trust me bro jesus is real.
Also Bible: I see you want to test if I am telling the truth. No thats illegal you can't do that.
Guillable christian: sure thing mr jesus no proof required for you. But for everything else i will demand the stingest proof to be convinced and be extremely skeptical. Even then I will not believe because my personal feeling override logic and I will simp for jesus no matter what anyone says.

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