all 125>>>75fcr

and insight 1hit everything.... still dont have even 1 skiller^^
if u are talking for top screen dmg then pbly u are right

i dont think maxroll property factors everything in
plus the +4 to all skills is really nice to have across the board

the 1 hit everything argument is 100% false

i mean .. yeah maxroll is not perfect or is there any other char calc planner u used ?

btw the most unreliable one is the char damage screen, please dont use that lol

55-68K dmg with zero skillers..... holy fire extra fast cursed hephisto is must and all is 1 hit
keep w8 urs fana haphisto to hit for amp dmg^^

its same as u telling me that 65fcr sorc is better then 105^^

This post was edited by al1as on Apr 7 2026 12:17pm

yeah just do the math yourself in excel, eth ariocs is more damage than insight and thats without factoring in the protectors stone and that -10% to phys is a hugeeeee buff
insight has a lot going for it dont get me wrong and is def BIS if u want to hit 125fcr but if ur just going for 75% fcr then eth aroic w the stone is better

i guess you've never actually fought t5 herald packs in a p8 game lmk when u get to the real end game farm

also yeah phoenix isnt even an option if ur horking all ur t5 heralds

This post was edited by Silenkiller on Apr 7 2026 12:19pm

can share your excel sheet if u dont mind? i mean the easiest is still maxroll just to see the dps but then u disagree with maxroll

there are alot reason why insight end up over take arioc in damage wise .. if u think about it

well, the crit from insight even at +6 is slightly less than ariocs 50% so its beat right out the gate on that
the thing about ES is that it scales huge from +skills so greater weapon damage of insights base gets outperformed by the +4 skills on ariocs by a lot
then you add the protector stone to the wep which is like the only slot u can actually get the most benefit from it
idk how to estimate how much more damage -10% phys resis yields but traditionally -resis greatly outperforms +%dmg when you dont have any other sources of -resis

now insights med aura i think is a requirement for QOL, so youll have to still have it on your merc at least

This post was edited by Silenkiller on Apr 7 2026 12:28pm

First of all , your +6cs calc is wrong ..
you will get min +9 or +12cs depend on which setup u used which will make insight ds will be always be 60% and above

Second , insight setup will end up having same ES skill level or 1level lesser as ariocs due to the fcr in insight

3rd , proctector stone in helm also has the same effect for -physical damage as it's in weapon. The benefit of proc stone in arioc over proc stone in helm for insight is that you get the 50ed for arioc

4th , arioc weapon avg damage is wayyy lower versus archon staff ( not to mention 50% extra undead damage in archon staff )

i will skip the 5th .. u shuold know what else insight has

This post was edited by Onyxdian on Apr 7 2026 12:37pm