How does one define being a Jew and how does Jewish ancestry works.

This is a serious topic because I am really curious.

I knew this for a long time but I would like to check with our Jewish friends on JSP.

If what I think is correct.... this might be something new....if what I presume or my line of thoughts and how I look at things is true.

Then perhaps, Bruce Lee yes...the famous Hong Kong and Chinese Martial Arts artist might be a Jew.

It is not surprising there are Chinese Jews

Information here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaifeng_Jews

They have been Jews in China since antiquity, most of them are predominantly Sephardic Jews although there are a small amount of Ashkenazi Jews and Mizrahi Jews

Some of them, a small number, have went back to Israel to perform Aliyah and to assimilate.



Back to Bruce Lee

Bruce Lee's mother is Grace Ho and her Half Maternal Brother is Sir Robert Ho Tung, their father is a Dutch Jew by the name of Charles Maurice Bosman
The Bosmans are a famous Dutch Jewish Family in East Asia specifically in Macau and Hong Kong.

As we know during the East India Comapny Days There are a lot of Jewish traders and businessman in Hong Kong and Macau dating back to the early 1800s.
Some of them married local woman and started families. And due to Qing Dynasty Laws, you can have as much wives and concubines as you want...so naturally the families are really huge.

The famous Stanley Ho, a Macau Casino billionaire is also a descendant of Charles Maurice Bosman, well he had tons of wives and only pass away a few years back.

So is Bruce Lee considered a Jew ?

For more information.

Bruce Lee's Mother

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grace_Ho

Sir Robert Ho Tung

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Hotung

Ho Tung Family with some information about Charles Maurice Bosman.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_China

Jews in China .

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_China

Not sure, interesting question.

King of on topic my wife and I did a DNA test about 10 years ago and at the time it said she was 100 percent Filipino.

Then about 4 years ago we got mail saying they revised it and now she was 99 percent Filipino and 1 percent Jewish

Nobody will expect Bruce Lee to be potentially of Jewsih Descent

Pretty sure they define being Jewish as being able to trace your ancestry back to one of the 12 sons of Israel

But idk how dafaq that works with converts

If God is all loving and all knowing why would God care about what lines us humans draw in the sand?

Chinese, Jewish, white, black, Latino, all just human made up. An all loving and all knowing being would not care one bit of our genetic ancestry origins but simply our actions and inner desires and the goodness from the souls of our ancestors. We are all the children of God and should work together towards a positive future for earth and the small beings that can't help themselves.

Personally I hope Bruce Lee was part Jewish so more people can come together and be kind and say hey that dude is like me, I am like them, we aren't so different.

In reference to my wife being 1 percent Jewish I just thought it was funny because it seems like it's a scam.

My DNA said I'm from like 8 different countries but on a form I have to check white, so odd my origin is a color(maybe it's a bullshit line in the sand??) I'm not even white I'm like light brown pinkish

It's like the huntrix movie we all need to come together and use our soul power to stop the devil inside ourselves. Then maybe we can live with hope again and just have some fun.

Same way being Jewish is both a religion and a natioonality all made up.

My guess both methods are acceptable
Converting to Judaism
And the other tracing your DNA not sure what % you have to be but I am guessing 1% is sufficient.

This post was edited by addone on Apr 3 2026 10:14pm

I don't exactly care what lines we as humans are.



But it is Fascinating in a way that Bruce Lee might be one.
With all the threads we have in regards to what Israel ( and Jews and Mossad ) is doing etc etc .The debates goes both way and there are some on our Pard forum who Believes although they might have valid reasons..that if one is a Jew one will be such and such.

It is different that they also point out if you are a Chinese, Russian, Indian, white American, Black etc etc I can go on and on...and if you are those race mention, you fall under a certain category and it is in your Blood and runs through your veins that you will commit certain acts.

Such is the world we are living in, technology, architecture, medicine etc etc changed , became better, improved , communications reach further than ever before.

And yet when shit hits the fan, Geo Political tension arises, economy goes down south, Domestic issues between both ends of the political spectrum clash..... Tribalism starts to dominate everything.
And it is very obvious, as you can see , even in such a small part of the forum debates are no longer debates . ever since I first join part on Ferdia's first Russian thread. I can see so much hypocrisy, brain dead situations.

I am naive in a way, thinking that almost all of us here and a lot of us join during the early or mid 2000s and we are probably around the age of early 30s to early 50s, would try their very best to engage in a more critical approach in contentious and sensitive issues.
But dear lord, am I wrong. Even for me and it applies to me too., if you look back at the first 500 to 800 pages of the Russian thread , the first one which I just join, and you look at how I approach arguments now, it is extremely different.
Because I realize that being reasonable, trying to look at both ends of the argument and try to present a not too bias and fair argument is extremely difficult.

It is what it is.


The saddest thing is, a lot of us, at times me included but not so much, uses the moral argument on topics. Moral Arguments by and large are useless and pointless.
For Example.... One can argue that the Republican and conservative side are superior because of Christian upbringing and following the good book, and when the files is out, they are utterly disappointed by the actions of those who support, same goes to the left.

This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on Apr 3 2026 10:53pm

On this topic it's best not to form convoluted rationales and go straight to the science - biology.

Human races have different phenotypes which are self evident and most are directly observable by the naked eye, and go far beyond skin colour which is but a single phenotypical expression. Other phenotypes include bone shapes, facial structures, height & weight, bone density, the list goes on. Remember that human beings are mammals and follow the same biological law as any other animal.

A jew is a jew. They have massive hooked noses, off-white skin tone, shorter smaller frames, lower testosterone among males, and generally have a statistically higher rate of genetic deformities or abnormalities (Bill Maher is a good example of an abnormal anti-aesthetic facial structure) due to in-breeding (which is not intrinsic to their race, but low population and tribal nature).

Bruce Lee is self evidently not jewish, but Chinese. He expresses every Chinese phenotype and zero jewish phenotype - no evidence of any jewish racial mixing not including a potential negligible contribution several centuries prior. I am self evidently Germanic/Nordic, Latins are self evidently Latin, etc. Complexities arise when races mix which each other, where what often occurs are expressions of both parent's phenotypes in differing proportions, for example Wasians which often inherit aesthetivally desirable feminine phenotypes, causing them to win most beauty pageants nowadays.

This post was edited by El1te on Apr 3 2026 10:55pm

But it is fascinating that he might be one, there are also a lot of " Black Ethiopian Jews " that probably have more Hebrew DNA that some of those that are living in the promised land.
And there is also a mandate ( Conspiracy theory ) you might think, that they are injecting things into them to prevent them having a continuous bloodline.

This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on Apr 3 2026 10:56pm

He isn't one though because he is self evidently Chinese as observable by the naked eye. Almost no one at this point due to widespread mass transportation could be considered a 100% pure pedigreed human without serious inbreeding which alot of jews are

This post was edited by El1te on Apr 3 2026 10:57pm