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Apr 1 2026 10:37am
Obsession + phoenix is way better
I personally tested insight, fort, ariocs and botd, Nothing come close to obsession, it allows you to have 125FCR super easy with a bunch of +skills and you dont need to worry about resistances allowing you to use even more skillers.

Insight in the main hand is like the 4th option.


dont you have mana problems without insight?
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Apr 1 2026 10:39am
You don't need to worry about the weapon that much. The cheapest options (Arioc or Insight) are way more than enough to clear everything with ease. I farmed my own warlock torch deathless with just ariocs and a spirit shield.
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Apr 1 2026 10:41am
just make a bow lock
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Apr 1 2026 10:57am
dont you have mana problems without insight?


This is essentially my setup, i dont use pride on merc, i use insight + cure + chains.

https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/nme9af0i

Currently 97 almost 98, clears speeds are very nice on P8. no mana issues, no resistances issues, i havent died since 92...

This post was edited by Rilu on Apr 1 2026 10:59am
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Apr 1 2026 10:57am
oops, typo that I can't edit:


Interesting option.

I use to play with 20 hardpoints into Consume (with Goatman) and 20 softpoints into Bind Demon.
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Apr 1 2026 10:58am
Just get a demon with amp. The aura they have is almost irrelevant to the point where spending time farming for a certain setup will almost surely be less efficient than just using the first amp demon you decide to grab.
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Apr 1 2026 11:15am
This is essentially my setup, i dont use pride on merc, i use insight + cure + chains.

[URL]https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/nme9af0i[/URL]

Currently 97 almost 98, clears speeds are very nice on P8. no mana issues, no resistances issues, i havent died since 92...


sounds good... maybe i should switch to obessesion aswell
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Apr 1 2026 11:17am
Like I said twice already, cursed + any of the 3 holy aura
This is close to irrelevant. So irrelevant that you will lose more time trying to get the one particular aura you want rather than just sticking up with the first of the 3 holy aura you find.

Yes, pride + might merc
Give him CoH and Cure.

Put insight on yourself, sell your fort to a noob and make profit while also improving your build.
125fcr
20 hard points in blood oath
20 soft points in bind demon (before cta so you don't lose one when BC expires)
use 2 defilers, don't consume unless you do ubers/ancients

There, this is all you need to know to achieve the absolute best ES warlock.


this ^

insight eth staves > fort/obsession etc

phoenix is really bad when u have hork barb in p8 game , please dont use that
and if you dont play p8 with hork ,please find 1 , it will change your life

for p1, just use whatever it doesn't matter

insight helps u to tele around in p8 games esp in tomb where u cant leech , those that rely on mana leech for sustain basically chugging pots when they in tomb full with skellies , its really bad

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Apr 1 2026 11:25am
this ^

insight eth staves > fort/obsession etc

phoenix is really bad when u have hork barb in p8 game , please dont use that
and if you dont play p8 with hork ,please find 1 , it will change your life

for p1, just use whatever it doesn't matter

insight helps u to tele around in p8 games esp in tomb where u cant leech , those that rely on mana leech for sustain basically chugging pots when they in tomb full with skellies , its really bad


but what about the ressis? when i use insight my ressis on hardmore are like 10@ alll
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Apr 1 2026 11:27am
Interesting option.

I use to play with 20 hardpoints into Consume (with Goatman) and 20 softpoints into Bind Demon.


Core dmg:
20 ES
20 mirror
20 blade warp
4 prereq

Core defense:
20 blood oath (only hard points count) = 43% dmg reduction of all types

Core sustain:
1 syphon (-33% dmg and life/mana per kill = sustain even vs enemies without drain effectiveness)
2 prereq

Core demons:
20 soft points demon mastery (before cta to not lose one when BC expire)
1+ bound demon (you could want to reach 20 soft points to make it easier to find a demon as he always roll aura enchanted, but this is only useful once and it can be achieved with 1 hard point and gear swaps)
6 prereq (no consume yet)

This is leaving you with a few points left (depending on how much hard points you need to invest in demon mastery, and your current lvl).
For general PvM, using 2 defilers is better than consuming a goat.
So unless you plan on doing Ubers/ancients, you don’t even need a point in consume. You can dump remaining points in levitation mastery.
If you want to do Ubers/ancients, then add 1 to lethargy and 1+ to consume.
I’d still only put 1 hard point in consume, cuz it only gives 1% more ed than levitation mastery, but you’ll always benefit from levitation mastery and very rarely from consume (unless this char is dedicated for Ubers only lol).
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